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From another board. looks like Mike needs to find another hitting coach. Looks very doubtful we host, unless we go on a tear the rest of the season. Here's the way the SEC looks combined.

SC- 11-4
Fla- 11-4
A&M- 10-5
LSU- 9-6
Kentucky- 9-6
Vandy- 9-6
State- 8-7
Bama 8-7
OM- 7-8
Georgia 6-9
Auburn 5-10
Mizzou 4-11
Tenn 4-11
UPig 4-11

Compared the individual batting averages for last year (2015) with this year (2016), although this year's averages will obviously change with close to 1/2 the season to go. It revealed some interesting facts, pointing more to the likelihood of a problem with a coached "team approach" at the plate, and not just an "individual slump" this year by a couple or three players. Ordinarily, you see the batting average of most of the players improve with experience from year to year. However, that's not the case with the majority of the players on the team this year which leads to conclude that something has changed from last year, as a team approach at the plate, and it has produced negative results. Your mileage may vary, but it's hard to believe that 6 out of 9 players with an additional year of experience are all having a slump at the same time.

Of course some of the players can get hot as we get further into the SEC schedule and improve their ba (although less likely in league play), but right now only 3 out of the 9 players listed below have improved their batting average over last year. This is what it looks like now according to the Ole MIss Sports data, listing the best batting averages from last year in descending order in the 2015 column, compared to the player's batting average this year:

Player 2015 2016 Improved?

C. Cloyd .369 .259 No
E. Robinson .297 .242 No
W. Golsan .290 .266 No
C. Bortles .281 .269 No
J.B. Woodman .274 .304 Yes
C. Dishon .251 .203 No
K. Watson .241 .211 No
H. Lartigue .225 .343 Yes
T. Blackman .197 .325 Yes

However, it was difficult to conclude much from the long-term historical team batting averages. But, two things jump out. First, from 2004-2009, our batting average was above .300, except for .295 in 2008. Second, since 2009 we have not batted over .300 as a team, and only threatened that level twice (2012 and 2014) after 2009. So, 2009 does seem to be a turning point of sorts. But, it's hard to determine any real trend because the dynamics of the bats and the ball have changed over the years, affecting the batting averages. This is what that data looks like:

Year Team Batting Average

2001 .300
2002 .318
2003 .284
2004 .296
2005 .321
2006 .309
2007 .308
2008 .295
2009 .310
2010 .289
2011 .282
2012 .296
2013 .277
2014 .297
2015 .265
2016 .270 (current)
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Team batting average doesn't tell you a lot. For example, Auburn has the 3rd highest team average in the league right now, yet they are 5-10 in SEC play and 17-19 overall. The only stat that really matters in college baseball is RPI. Ours is 7. Even after losing 2 on the road at Bama, we still sit in the top 10 in RPI. Obviously, if we want to stay in the top 10, our bats will have to come around.
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This is the way I see this season turning out. If I'm wrong, I will gladly eat crow.
Middle of the pack SEC team, will make SEC tournament and be eliminated pretty quick. Make Regional as a 2 or 3 seed, but on the road and the season will end there.
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rebeljim wrote:This is the way I see this season turning out. If I'm wrong, I will gladly eat crow.
Middle of the pack SEC team, will make SEC tournament and be eliminated pretty quick. Make Regional as a 2 or 3 seed, but on the road and the season will end there.
Check out my latest post. I felt like you about this time during the season. But wow, how have they turned it around!
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Heath wrote:
rebeljim wrote:This is the way I see this season turning out. If I'm wrong, I will gladly eat crow.
Middle of the pack SEC team, will make SEC tournament and be eliminated pretty quick. Make Regional as a 2 or 3 seed, but on the road and the season will end there.
Check out my latest post. I felt like you about this time during the season. But wow, how have they turned it around!
What are u talking about, I knew it all along. They fooled me. A little Heinz 57, and it doesn't taste to bad. This year is going alot better than I thought. I was wrong about this team But we need to finish strong. Getting beat right now by arkie st. We will host a regional though.
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I still say we gotta fire this bozo.
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