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Post by lewindha » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:53 pm

I just read on Rivals that on top of Newman, State also has 4 4 stars lined up for next year.

WTF AK?
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Post by rebeljim » Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:05 pm

Why is this surprising? Howland is an excellent hire for them. He has the AAU connections, and can get his players in the NBA. He's a known cheater that can recruit lights out. State's boosters were willing to pay 6 figures for a player, doubt any of ours will do that. state is currently 10th in the nation in recruiting, and that ranking will probably go up. Look for state to be in the top few in the SEC while Howland is here. state tried to play clean under Ray, and u saw where that got them. So if u want to start more hate AK since basketball is starting up, guess now is the time. Get use to this with state, they will continue getting top players as long as Howland is there. Here's an article about state's recruiting.

http://maroonandwhitenation.com/2015/11 ... ppi-state/
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Post by CrossroadsReb » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:51 pm

They'll be on probation within 5 years. Then the coaching carousel will begin.
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Post by lewindha » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:53 am

CrossroadsReb wrote:They'll be on probation within 5 years. Then the coaching carousel will begin.
Says every State fan about our football program. But, we say, 'nuh-uh'.

Jim, that wasn't meant to be a knock on AK. At least, I didn't mean it that way.

But, answer me this(and NO ONE EVER DOES WHEN I ASK IT)

If he's such a great coach, and we are such a bad program(we don't 'play the game', etc.), and our rivals are passing us by. Why doesn't he take a job somewhere that does 'play the game' and he can get better players and all that jazz?

That's all I hear now, Howland is an Adidas coach, he has AAU contacts, blah, blah. OK, so either we make adustments and do the same, or we say we don't do that. At what point does it stop being a hinderance and become an excuse?

This is what our program is, and this is what our admin. is willing to do for it. AK knows this and has known it. So deal with it and come up with ways to get players that you can win with(IT CAN BE DONE) under those circumstances, or go somewhere where you have better resources if you don't think you can do that under our current circumstances. Stop making excuses and do what it takes, or go somewhere where you fell you have a better chance to compete.
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Post by rebeljim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:31 am

lewindha wrote:
CrossroadsReb wrote:They'll be on probation within 5 years. Then the coaching carousel will begin.
Says every State fan about our football program. But, we say, 'nuh-uh'.

Jim, that wasn't meant to be a knock on AK. At least, I didn't mean it that way.

But, answer me this(and NO ONE EVER DOES WHEN I ASK IT)

If he's such a great coach, and we are such a bad program(we don't 'play the game', etc.), and our rivals are passing us by. Why doesn't he take a job somewhere that does 'play the game' and he can get better players and all that jazz?

That's all I hear now, Howland is an Adidas coach, he has AAU contacts, blah, blah. OK, so either we make adustments and do the same, or we say we don't do that. At what point does it stop being a hinderance and become an excuse?

This is what our program is, and this is what our admin. is willing to do for it. AK knows this and has known it. So deal with it and come up with ways to get players that you can win with(IT CAN BE DONE) under those circumstances, or go somewhere where you have better resources if you don't think you can do that under our current circumstances. Stop making excuses and do what it takes, or go somewhere where you fell you have a better chance to compete.
Have no idea why he hasn't applied for another job. I know he likes coaching close to home, and he makes pretty good here, I would think. The class he has coming in the fall appears to be pretty good. Will see after signing day. The new arena will help some, but how much remains to be seen. As for as when will we start doing this or that to get the players needed, u need to ask the the powers that be why we don't spend more money on players like others do.
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Post by lewindha » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:23 am

And we've done well the last couple of years, but it's clear that other programs in the SEC are upgrading in all aspects, and it seems we could get left behind if we don't get with it. But, it's been like this for a while, it's becoming a bigger problem for us now b/c the other schools are pouring more into their basketball programs.

Being close to home may be a big factor, but I definitely don't get the "I'm loyal to Ole MIss" vibe from him. So, that is why I'm curious as to why he hasn't bolted considering all the things we hear regarding AAU, shoe companies, etc.
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Post by rebeljim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:54 am

lewindha wrote:And we've done well the last couple of years, but it's clear that other programs in the SEC are upgrading in all aspects, and it seems we could get left behind if we don't get with it. But, it's been like this for a while, it's becoming a bigger problem for us now b/c the other schools are pouring more into their basketball programs.

Being close to home may be a big factor, but I definitely don't get the "I'm loyal to Ole MIss" vibe from him. So, that is why I'm curious as to why he hasn't bolted considering all the things we hear regarding AAU, shoe companies, etc.
Again, our big boosters don't care near as much about basketball as they do football. They won't go that extra mile to get the top basketball players like the do for top football players. That's been obvious for a long time. And I'm sure AK likes being close to his parents as they get older in life. But your questions need to be answered by AK and our top boosters. Only they know the real reason. Me, I'm gonna pull for us in basketball, and hope we go dancing again this near. And judging by the latest class, maybe our recruiting is picking up a little.
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