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If your offensive line does a superb job of protecting Snead and keeping the Hog defense out of the Rebels' backfield, it could be a long afternoon for the Hogs. If the Rebels' defensive front does not manage to stuff or hurry Mallet, I can almost guarantee you that it will be a long afternoon for Ole Miss. I truly do not believer that the Rebels can win an offensive shootout with the Hogs with ineffectual defenses on both sides of the ball. That's just one man's opinion, of course.
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Rebchuck18 wrote:
JustBlues wrote:both teams are looking for a signature win to hang their hat on.
No way this will be viewed as a "signature win" by anyone at Ole Miss. Bama would have been a signature win....LSU could be...this is just a game we should win against a lesser team. No more of a "signature win" than Vandy or MSU.

And the only thing that will make these teams similar is our underachieving QB.
Well said Chuck.

If we lose this one, it will be another instance of the Rebs not playing up to their potential.
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SilverFox wrote: I truly do not believer that the Rebels can win an offensive shootout with the Hogs with ineffectual defenses on both sides of the ball. That's just one man's opinion, of course.
"Ineffectual defenses on both sides of the ball"...first of all I will assume you meant ineffectual defenses on both teams....

Secondly...excuse me? The Rebels defense is ranked in the top 10 nationally in virtually every category including scoring defense (the only one that really matters)..and in the top 5 nationally in red zone defense....

Among SEC teams Arky is ranked 4th in scoring offense and the Rebels are 6th...hardly a significant difference in spite of our QB being ranked 92 out of 100 among FBS QB's because of his horrible play so far...

On defense...the Rebels are ranked 3rd in the conference in scoring defense, just a point and a half behind number 2 Alabama..Arkansas? Ranked 11th out of 12 teams, giving up 14 more points a game than Ole Miss (two TD's!)....the only team giving up more points per game than Arky is Georgia.

Ineffectual defense? Well you got it half right. Please don't bring that ill informed garbage to our discussions.
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Rebchuck18 wrote:
SilverFox wrote: I truly do not believer that the Rebels can win an offensive shootout with the Hogs with ineffectual defenses on both sides of the ball. That's just one man's opinion, of course.
"Ineffectual defenses on both sides of the ball"...first of all I will assume you meant ineffectual defenses on both teams....

Secondly...excuse me? The Rebels defense is ranked in the top 10 nationally in virtually every category including scoring defense (the only one that really matters)..and in the top 5 nationally in red zone defense....

Among SEC teams Arky is ranked 4th in scoring offense and the Rebels are 6th...hardly a significant difference in spite of our QB being ranked 92 out of 100 among FBS QB's because of his horrible play so far...

On defense...the Rebels are ranked 3rd in the conference in scoring defense, just a point and a half behind number 2 Alabama..Arkansas? Ranked 11th out of 12 teams, giving up 14 more points a game than Ole Miss (two TD's!)....the only team giving up more points per game than you is Georgia.

Ineffectual defense? Well you got it half right. Please don't bring that ill informed garbage to our discussions.
You will have to excuse the fox... He is off rehearsing for a shakespearean play....
This is simple, good defense beats good offense..
If we dont turn it over, we win...
These hog fans are killing me..
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JustBlues wrote:hard to call a team with 6 SEC championships "historically the 10th best team in the conference"... How many SEC championships has Arkansas won?
Being originally from Arkansas, I can respectfully answer that question - zero. However, during the Nutt era at Arkansas, there were three SEC - West Championships.
Taking a step back and looking at each program unbiasily from a historical standpoint, there is no argument Ole Miss is much richer in tradition.
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porkies rack 30 plus on us. We have to out score them.
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but I really doubt that they'll score that many points. That's a decent amount more than anyone else has scored on us. I feel good about our defense. The defense didn't play well against UAB but has been stout the rest of the year. Even the best team in the nation could only score 22 against us. We'll see though. College football is full of surprises.
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JustBlues wrote:but I really doubt that they'll score that many points. That's a decent amount more than anyone else has scored on us. I feel good about our defense. The defense didn't play well against UAB but has been stout the rest of the year. Even the best team in the nation could only score 22 against us. We'll see though. College football is full of surprises.

I am an Arkansas fan and I very much respect the Ole Miss defense. I watched the game against Alabama and you defense was the big reason you stayed in that game as long as you did. If your defense had not made some of the Red Zone stops it made it could have gotten ugly but it did not. Hats off to your defense for that.

To me when it comes to our defense, I think yards can be very misleading. Sometimes the media uses stats too much to value an Offense or a Defense. Sure we have given up lots of yards but if you have seen our defense in the last 3 games. They have come up with big play after big play. (2 fumbles in their own Red Zone against Florida)

To me here is how I look at defenses without looking at just stats:

Bad defenses: Give up lots of yards and hardly make big plays at all
Good Defenses: Give up yards but come up with big stops at big moments

Great Defenses: Give up not many yards and make tons of Big Plays.

The way our defense has gradually gotten better as the season has progressed I would call our defense Good, I would the Ole Miss defense Great.

I feel we are improving on Defense and I think you could see that against Florida with sacking Tebow 6 times, plus 4 fumbles. Plus our offense broke one of FLorida streaks. We stopped their 17 games in a row with at least 1 interception. That is good for Mallett considering how he was against Alabama. When plays were not there he either took the sack or threw the ball away. To me if it is not there don't force it.

Good Luck Saturday Ole Miss.
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and good analysis. Thanks for the kind words and I agree with much of what you say. Arkansas's defense played very well against Florida and if they keep that up, then they will have a great finish to the season. I am not convinced that the performance against Auburn tells you much about your defense, however. Look at what Kentucky's defense did against Auburn. Of course, every week is different. Ultimately, when the day is over, the only stat that matters is which team has the most points. Your defense has given up a lot of points this year but in most games your offense has made up for it. There is no doubt in my mind that both Ole Miss and Arkansas are good (definitely neither is great) teams. Ole Miss has the better defense of the two and Arkansas has the better offense of the two, all games considered. For all the disparaging words about the Ole Miss offense, there certainly have been moments where they have clicked, even against good teams. They just can't seem to put together a full game. There is too much blame to go around to discuss it in one post. This upcoming game is definitely an enigma. Which Ole Miss offense will show up and which Arkansas defense will show up? If one shows up but not the other, well just imagine the possibilities. I don't think that will happen. I think that Ole Miss's offense will be ok and Arkansas's defense will be ok. Neither great but both adequate. I think that it will be a good game overall. I look forward to watching it.
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Arkansas definitely scares me. They can beat us, despite what some of our overzealous folks are saying.

Here's what gives me hope. Snead's performace against UAB. Yes, Hog fans, I know it was UAB. But IMO, Snead has looked like garbage in every game this year. Except the UAB game. He threw a couple of picks against Memphis. He was 16 of 28 against freaking SE LA and didn't look accurate. And he threw 3 picks against Vandy. I won't even rehash S. Car. and Bama.

But this past weekend, his passes were accurate and on-time, except for maybe 2 long balls that were overthrown(but were no where near being picked off).

This is an even match up IMO.
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lewindha wrote:Arkansas definitely scares me. They can beat us, despite what some of our overzealous folks are saying.

Here's what gives me hope. Snead's performace against UAB. Yes, Hog fans, I know it was UAB. But IMO, Snead has looked like garbage in every game this year. Except the UAB game. He threw a couple of picks against Memphis. He was 16 of 28 against freaking SE LA and didn't look accurate. And he threw 3 picks against Vandy. I won't even rehash S. Car. and Bama.

But this past weekend, his passes were accurate and on-time, except for maybe 2 long balls that were overthrown(but were no where near being picked off).

This is an even match up IMO.
Totally in agreement. I think, as I've said, that this will be a very close game. The winner by 3-7 points....I've got nothing but admiration for Mallett...he's got one H*ll of an arm....our D has been playing pretty much lights out....Hardy is once again almost in one piece again....the Hogs always play tough....and I think the Rebs have their confidence on the upswing.

I wouldn't want to bet a paycheck on this one. But still think the Rebs pull it out....OM by 4.
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lewindha wrote:Arkansas definitely scares me. They can beat us, despite what some of our overzealous folks are saying.

Here's what gives me hope. Snead's performace against UAB. Yes, Hog fans, I know it was UAB. But IMO, Snead has looked like garbage in every game this year. Except the UAB game. He threw a couple of picks against Memphis. He was 16 of 28 against freaking SE LA and didn't look accurate. And he threw 3 picks against Vandy. I won't even rehash S. Car. and Bama.

But this past weekend, his passes were accurate and on-time, except for maybe 2 long balls that were overthrown(but were no where near being picked off).

This is an even match up IMO.
Totally in agreement. I think, as I've said, that this will be a very close game. The winner by 3-7 points....I've got nothing but admiration for Mallett...he's got one H*ll of an arm....our D has been playing pretty much lights out....Hardy is once again almost in one piece again....the Hogs always play tough....and I think the Rebs have their confidence on the upswing.

I wouldn't want to bet a paycheck on this one. But still think the Rebs pull it out....OM by 4.
If it is a close game I think we lose. Because if Snead plays well, then we should score a lot of points against their porous defense, while our defense should hold them in check. But if Snead plays as he has been playing then I see them kicking enough field goals, or capitalizing on turnovers to beat us. As usual I believe our fate is tied directly to Snead. Let's hope the good Snead shows up.
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Rebchuck18 wrote:
LCW wrote:
lewindha wrote:Arkansas definitely scares me. They can beat us, despite what some of our overzealous folks are saying.

Here's what gives me hope. Snead's performace against UAB. Yes, Hog fans, I know it was UAB. But IMO, Snead has looked like garbage in every game this year. Except the UAB game. He threw a couple of picks against Memphis. He was 16 of 28 against freaking SE LA and didn't look accurate. And he threw 3 picks against Vandy. I won't even rehash S. Car. and Bama.

But this past weekend, his passes were accurate and on-time, except for maybe 2 long balls that were overthrown(but were no where near being picked off).

This is an even match up IMO.
Totally in agreement. I think, as I've said, that this will be a very close game. The winner by 3-7 points....I've got nothing but admiration for Mallett...he's got one H*ll of an arm....our D has been playing pretty much lights out....Hardy is once again almost in one piece again....the Hogs always play tough....and I think the Rebs have their confidence on the upswing.

I wouldn't want to bet a paycheck on this one. But still think the Rebs pull it out....OM by 4.
If it is a close game I think we lose. Because if Snead plays well, then we should score a lot of points against their porous defense, while our defense should hold them in check. But if Snead plays as he has been playing then I see them kicking enough field goals, or capitalizing on turnovers to beat us. As usual I believe our fate is tied directly to Snead. Let's hope the good Snead shows up.
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