Defense faces another test from Rebels' Dexter McCluster
Texas quarterback Colt McCoy. Missouri receiver Danario Alexander. Texas A&M quarterback Jarrod Johnson.
Those are just a few of the Big 12’s most explosive offensive threats who have tested Oklahoma State’s defense in 2009. Yet, the Cowboys haven’t seen anything like Ole Miss running back Dexter McCluster.......
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Despite the status of leading tackler Donald Booker (ankle) remaining unclear, OSU’s defense seems better prepared for the task than in previous seasons. The Cowboys finished sixth in the nation in rushing defense, allowing 87.7 rushing yards per game. As strong as those numbers are, they came in a conference in which only Kansas State running back Daniel Thomas averaged over 100 rushing yards per game (105.4). ........
McCluster brings a challenge the Cowboys haven’t seen all season: A dynamic running back who is a threat to go the distance every time he touches the ball. :flip:
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Dex is a one of a kind athlete but the whole Big 12 was really down this year. Other than UT, they were really lacking big stars on offense. OSU will also see and SEC Defense. I know they played UGA but that defense was terrible. Gundy and co will have their hands full with Dex and OM's defense. That's why OM wins this one by 10 plus.
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I think it will be a good game no doubt. Dex is one of the most dynamic players in college football for the last few years. I can't remember a player lining up at so many different positions.
I really do think you will be impressed by our defense though. Bill Young has installed a great system. We have absolutely no talent on our defensive line and have been great against the rush and have provided a decent pash rush. A lot of this has to do with his scheme and blitz methods. The strength of our defense is our LBs and corners, Perrish Cox will probably be one of the best corners you guys have faced and Terence Anderson is solid. We actually play a lot better vs. pro style offenses so I think that will help us out. I know Ole Miss has some spread packages but also uses a lot of pro style as well.
The big question is our running game. If we start out running the ball well that will really open up our gameplan. If you guys shut us down we don't have the type of offense that can really burn you on all passing downs. Gundy has been very conservative with his play calling this year, but we are all hoping with a health Zac Robinson he will open the gameplan up. We have a very deep backfield and a great offensive line, this will be the focal point of our offense.
The key will be if we can open holes up in the middle. A big part of our running game is the option out of the shotgun and the stretch play out of a one back formation. Both of these plays will open up if we find room on the zone option read through the middle.
I really do think you will be impressed by our defense though. Bill Young has installed a great system. We have absolutely no talent on our defensive line and have been great against the rush and have provided a decent pash rush. A lot of this has to do with his scheme and blitz methods. The strength of our defense is our LBs and corners, Perrish Cox will probably be one of the best corners you guys have faced and Terence Anderson is solid. We actually play a lot better vs. pro style offenses so I think that will help us out. I know Ole Miss has some spread packages but also uses a lot of pro style as well.
The big question is our running game. If we start out running the ball well that will really open up our gameplan. If you guys shut us down we don't have the type of offense that can really burn you on all passing downs. Gundy has been very conservative with his play calling this year, but we are all hoping with a health Zac Robinson he will open the gameplan up. We have a very deep backfield and a great offensive line, this will be the focal point of our offense.
The key will be if we can open holes up in the middle. A big part of our running game is the option out of the shotgun and the stretch play out of a one back formation. Both of these plays will open up if we find room on the zone option read through the middle.
First, let me say that I agree that it has potential of being a good game. I've no doubt that Oklahoma State has a good offense and a good defense. If we play like we played against Auburn or Mississippi State and you are having a good game, it could even get ugly. However, with that said, I have to make a couple of comments on your post. Our offense definitely has different sets that we operate out of. However, our main set is the power I, not pro-style. You have not faced a team that runs out of the power I. Now, regarding your comment that you play a lot better against pro style offense... you faced three teams that run primarily a pro style offense. They scored 41, 31 and 27 points against you and you lost two of those games. I don't think that those stats say anything about how this game is going to go but it makes it hard for me to agree that you play your best defense against that style of offense.osucowboys34 wrote:I think it will be a good game no doubt. Dex is one of the most dynamic players in college football for the last few years. I can't remember a player lining up at so many different positions.
I really do think you will be impressed by our defense though. Bill Young has installed a great system. We have absolutely no talent on our defensive line and have been great against the rush and have provided a decent pash rush. A lot of this has to do with his scheme and blitz methods. The strength of our defense is our LBs and corners, Perrish Cox will probably be one of the best corners you guys have faced and Terence Anderson is solid. We actually play a lot better vs. pro style offenses so I think that will help us out. I know Ole Miss has some spread packages but also uses a lot of pro style as well.
The big question is our running game. If we start out running the ball well that will really open up our gameplan. If you guys shut us down we don't have the type of offense that can really burn you on all passing downs. Gundy has been very conservative with his play calling this year, but we are all hoping with a health Zac Robinson he will open the gameplan up. We have a very deep backfield and a great offensive line, this will be the focal point of our offense.
The key will be if we can open holes up in the middle. A big part of our running game is the option out of the shotgun and the stretch play out of a one back formation. Both of these plays will open up if we find room on the zone option read through the middle.
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The 3 games I assume your referring to are Texas, Texas A&M and OU?
All three of those teams run almost exclusively out of the spread formation so I'm not sure where your going with this....
A&M has a few power formations but 80% of the time run Shotgun with Jerrod Johnson. The only team we have played that plays under center more than Shotgun is probably Georgia, which we held to 10 points. There are quite a few power-I sets usually incorporated with a pro-style offense as well, but I would agree we haven't seen a lot of this during the season.
We also have a lot of power formations we use quite a bit. People always pair us with a passing team since we run the spread a lot, but we are a run first team. We have led the Big 12 in rushing 3 straight seasons. We have about 4 or 5 bread and butter running plays that will be a bulk of the play calling.
Speed Option from Shotgun
HB Iso with offset Fullback
Option Read from Shotgun (both 1 and 2 back sets)
HB stretch play from 1 back set
Off Tackle from Shotgun
All three of those teams run almost exclusively out of the spread formation so I'm not sure where your going with this....
A&M has a few power formations but 80% of the time run Shotgun with Jerrod Johnson. The only team we have played that plays under center more than Shotgun is probably Georgia, which we held to 10 points. There are quite a few power-I sets usually incorporated with a pro-style offense as well, but I would agree we haven't seen a lot of this during the season.
We also have a lot of power formations we use quite a bit. People always pair us with a passing team since we run the spread a lot, but we are a run first team. We have led the Big 12 in rushing 3 straight seasons. We have about 4 or 5 bread and butter running plays that will be a bulk of the play calling.
Speed Option from Shotgun
HB Iso with offset Fullback
Option Read from Shotgun (both 1 and 2 back sets)
HB stretch play from 1 back set
Off Tackle from Shotgun
Then who are the teams that run out of a pro-style offense that you have done well against. Just because a QB plays under center does not make it a "pro-style" offense. Some sets that Georgia runs is similar to a pro-style, but overall I wouldn't call them a pro-style offense (just as we aren't). Our offense bears very little resemblence to Georgia's.osucowboys34 wrote:The 3 games I assume your referring to are Texas, Texas A&M and OU?
All three of those teams run almost exclusively out of the spread formation so I'm not sure where your going with this....
A&M has a few power formations but 80% of the time run Shotgun with Jerrod Johnson. The only team we have played that plays under center more than Shotgun is probably Georgia, which we held to 10 points. There are quite a few power-I sets usually incorporated with a pro-style offense as well, but I would agree we haven't seen a lot of this during the season.
We also have a lot of power formations we use quite a bit. People always pair us with a passing team since we run the spread a lot, but we are a run first team. We have led the Big 12 in rushing 3 straight seasons. We have about 4 or 5 bread and butter running plays that will be a bulk of the play calling.
Speed Option from Shotgun
HB Iso with offset Fullback
Option Read from Shotgun (both 1 and 2 back sets)
HB stretch play from 1 back set
Off Tackle from Shotgun
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Georgia definitely runs a pro-style offense. Mark Richt ran the same offense at FSU. Obivously he adapts his gameplan to what team he is playing, but against us he had that type of sets.
What seperates your offense from Georgia? I have seen 2 or 3 Ole Miss games this season and actually think there fairly similar. Other than a few wildcat formations you see a good mix or power sets, one back sets and shotgun.
What seperates your offense from Georgia? I have seen 2 or 3 Ole Miss games this season and actually think there fairly similar. Other than a few wildcat formations you see a good mix or power sets, one back sets and shotgun.
Although we have spent our time discussing sets and schemes, and could go on discussing the fine turning of those for days, the biggest differences between our offense and Georgia's come down to the following points: 1) Our line has about 100 pounds more on it, 2) we have Dexter McCluster and 3) they have AJ Green. Point one has helped us with power running and time of possession. Georgia wants to be a power running team but hasn't had much luck with it because of point 1. Point two puts a different wrinkle into our running game along with our power run. Dexter McCluster plus a big line can really be interesting as can be seen in our game against Tennessee. Point three is something we wish we had. Our QB seems to THINK that he has AJ Green, throwing the ball over the head of OUR receivers who have to stand on each other's shoulders to be an AJ Green.osucowboys34 wrote:Georgia definitely runs a pro-style offense. Mark Richt ran the same offense at FSU. Obivously he adapts his gameplan to what team he is playing, but against us he had that type of sets.
What seperates your offense from Georgia? I have seen 2 or 3 Ole Miss games this season and actually think there fairly similar. Other than a few wildcat formations you see a good mix or power sets, one back sets and shotgun.