HDN Myths busted at Ole Miss

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List of myths about HDN busted since he moved to a better program..

1) He will not pass the ball: Even with a Jekyll and Hyde QB he has incorporated a great mix of pass and run in our offense

2) He can't win Bowl games: 2-0 in New Years Bowl games

3) He can't recruit....read any newspaper or online recruting forum today

4) He can't win a championship....the best is yet to come....

3 down 1 to go!

Hotty Toddy!

[spudhog]

List of myths about HDN busted since he moved to a better program..

1) He will not pass the ball: Even with a Jekyll and Hyde QB he has incorporated a great mix of pass and run in our offense

2) He can't win Bowl games: 2-0 in New Years Bowl games

3) He can't recruit....read any newspaper or online recruting forum today

4) He can't win a championship....the best is yet to come....

3 down 1 to go!

Hotty Toddy!

He has done a nice job at OM so far. Interesting how he does this season coming up. Not going to start an argument but will chime in on the 4 talking points

1) Statiscally speaking, he was "balanced" at Ark. If one goes my passing attempts and yardage we were pretty balanced here at Ark. Problem was, we weren't good enough in the passing game to take that next step. Had nothing to do with yardage or attempts. I don't care if my team throw's it 5 or 50 times. Just execute and make the things happen when they have too. Think Austin and Nutt did a nice job with the passing attack the first 2 years. One could argue how many games the passing game lost this year via int's and etc. I would say that Nutt has done better passing the ball at OM than Ark. Not going to argue that.

2) He was 2-6 (only coached in 5 of the lost bowl games but that last one was his player's/staff so think it's ok to give the staff that loss) in bowl games at Ark. Can't flip those numbers around to make them even remotely sound positive. The bowl preperation practices by the Nutt staff didn't work at Ark. By reading here on the board and word of mouth. Seems as though they've changed some things up. If that's the case. Nothing wrong with a coach learning and maturing his ways to do better. The most frustrating part with the Ark bowl losses is that we were often favored and got beat badly. Don't think any program enjoys losing bowl games.

3) The recruiting thing, to me, is the biggest improvement. The recruiting at Ark was spotty and at times very hurtfull to the program. He had some terrible classes here at Ark that were well documented and easily explained the lean years. There were a lot of burned bridges in the state of Ark by Nutt and his staff that hurt with the in state recruiting. He has done an excellent job recruiting at OM. That is great for OM and it's supporters. If he keeps this type of recruiting up, then OM should be fine for years to come.

4) He does have 1 out right west ring (one by Bama being on probation and another split with Msu). So far, he hasn't won an SECCG. But, with the before mentioned progression in his coaching. Nutt very well could find himself with a real ability to win one.

Anyone that says that Nutt is a terrible coach is obviously bitter and just incorrect. He's also not proven to be Vince Lombardi (as of yet). He did a good job of reviving the Ark program but had obviously hit a plateau that it was mutually beneficial for both sides to try something else. He has and is doing a nice job at OM. Time will tell if he can take that next step as a HC. So far, he hasn't. I think Ark/OM are both in the same boat of attempting to take that next step. Be interesting to see if/when each program gets there.

[bleuwolfe]

Time will tell if he can take that next step as a HC. So far, he hasn't. I think Ark/OM are both in the same boat of attempting to take that next step. Be interesting to see if/when each program gets there.

having T-Nix gives him and OM a big advantage.. Nix is building a juggernaut of a D....not saying we'll get there first (hope so!), but it will help bc.......wait for it..............................................Defense wins championships!

[badmotorfinger]

[quoteb]Defense wins championships![/b]

I think even Rebchuck is starting to agree with that 8)

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[quoteb]Defense wins championships![/b]

I think even Rebchuck is starting to agree with that 8)

Defense is just as important as offense, but you need a QB who is an effective leader of your offense to win...he doesn't have to have amazing stats, but he can't have harmful stats (int's low completion %) and he has to lead the offenses in a manner that complements the defense...you can not win a championship with defense only...you must be able to score...even Bama would not have won the SEC Championship that got them to the BCS without an amazing offensive performance in Atlanta including a career performance at the ALL IMPORTANT position of QB!

BTW I know we are talking about college football which us king, but in the NFL I think it is clear that Offense wins championships...case in point the #1 defense in the league (Jets) barely finished above .500 and only did because of the laughable playoff system that allowed their final two opponents to basically forfeit.

[bleuwolfe]

[quoteb]Defense wins championships![/b]

I think even Rebchuck is starting to agree with that 8)

Defense is just as important as offense, but you need a QB who is an effective leader of your offense to win...he doesn't have to have amazing stats, but he can't have harmful stats (int's low completion %) and he has to lead the offenses in a manner that complements the defense...you can not win a championship with defense only...you must be able to score...even Bama would not have won the SEC Championship that got them to the BCS without an amazing offensive performance in Atlanta including a career performance at the ALL IMPORTANT position of QB!

BTW I know we are talking about college football which us king, but in the NFL I think it is clear that Offense wins championships...case in point the #1 defense in the league (Jets) barely finished above .500 and only did because of the laughable playoff system that allowed their final two opponents to basically forfeit.

The Baltimore Ravens might disagree with you.
RebChuck you are one TENACIOUS man. Glad you're on our side!

[spudhog]

Time will tell if he can take that next step as a HC. So far, he hasn't. I think Ark/OM are both in the same boat of attempting to take that next step. Be interesting to see if/when each program gets there.

having T-Nix gives him and OM a big advantage.. Nix is building a juggernaut of a D....not saying we'll get there first (hope so!), but it will help bc.......wait for it..............................................Defense wins championships!

Totally agree. We had one decent DC here (Burns) that came with Nutt from Boise. But the rest of his DC's were terrible. Herring (the last one) had a clause in his contract where he didn't have to recruit. So, our defense really suffered because of it. Also, he ticked off a lot of HS coaches running his mouth. Hence the reason in state recruiting suffered. Nix is good and OM is fortunate to have him.

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Totally agree. We had one decent DC here (Burns) that came with Nutt from Boise. But the rest of his DC's were terrible. Herring (the last one) had a clause in his contract where he didn't have to recruit. So, our defense really suffered because of it. Also, he ticked off a lot of HS coaches running his mouth. Hence the reason in state recruiting suffered. Nix is good and OM is fortunate to have him.

Of course I think you need a good defense to win championships (which is why I am not sold on Arkansas yet), but I think you need a good offense just as much and a good offense can most assuredly move you from average to good in a short period of time as is represented by Arkansas' improvement from '08 to '09 and what was the primary source of that improvement? I think he stands about 6'7" and he doesn't play defense.

I think Arky is two pieces away from being very good 1)effective running game 2)improved defense...but they also need an effective replacement for Mallett who probably won't be around to see an improved defense beyond this coming year...I think you guys have a couple of QB 's in line but I know nothing about how good they might be.

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The Baltimore Ravens might disagree with you.
RebChuck you are one TENACIOUS man. Glad you're on our side!

Thanks, you as well...

I do think that the Ravens were the last NFL team that could win big based solely on defense...I think that has changed dramatically just in the last couple of years.

Prime example is the Saints. Their defense is one of the most porous in the league. They do get timely turnovers, but the Saints must rely on offense to win.

[bleuwolfe]

The Baltimore Ravens might disagree with you.
RebChuck you are one TENACIOUS man. Glad you're on our side!

Thanks, you as well...

I do think that the Ravens were the last NFL team that could win big based solely on defense...I think that has changed dramatically just in the last couple of years.

Prime example is the Saints. Their defense is one of the most porous in the league. They do get timely turnovers, but the Saints must rely on offense to win.

True Dat!

[spudhog]

Totally agree. We had one decent DC here (Burns) that came with Nutt from Boise. But the rest of his DC's were terrible. Herring (the last one) had a clause in his contract where he didn't have to recruit. So, our defense really suffered because of it. Also, he ticked off a lot of HS coaches running his mouth. Hence the reason in state recruiting suffered. Nix is good and OM is fortunate to have him.

Of course I think you need a good defense to win championships (which is why I am not sold on Arkansas yet), but I think you need a good offense just as much and a good offense can most assuredly move you from average to good in a short period of time as is represented by Arkansas' improvement from '08 to '09 and what was the primary source of that improvement? I think he stands about 6'7" and he doesn't play defense.

I think Arky is two pieces away from being very good 1)effective running game 2)improved defense...but they also need an effective replacement for Mallett who probably won't be around to see an improved defense beyond this coming year...I think you guys have a couple of QB 's in line but I know nothing about how good they might be.

Well, I agree with a lot you said. You can't take that next step without a complete team.

The chips fell in place at Ark for Petrino to improve the offense more quickly. With a combination of leftover talent, recruits and transfers. Our 07 defense was statiscally one of the worse ones we have ever had. We lost all of the good players from that defense. Combine that with a DC that didn't recruit. Let's just say it's not a total shock we've struggled on defense the last couple of years.

2010 should be a good year for Ark. We have a lot of talent, experience and some depth (finally). I feel good about the "After Mallet Life". We have some good talent behind him.

I feel the 3rd/4th years is where you can really start to see what you have in a coach. Think Ark/OM will both be pleased with what they have.

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Totally agree. We had one decent DC here (Burns) that came with Nutt from Boise. But the rest of his DC's were terrible. Herring (the last one) had a clause in his contract where he didn't have to recruit. So, our defense really suffered because of it. Also, he ticked off a lot of HS coaches running his mouth. Hence the reason in state recruiting suffered. Nix is good and OM is fortunate to have him.

Of course I think you need a good defense to win championships (which is why I am not sold on Arkansas yet), but I think you need a good offense just as much and a good offense can most assuredly move you from average to good in a short period of time as is represented by Arkansas' improvement from '08 to '09 and what was the primary source of that improvement? I think he stands about 6'7" and he doesn't play defense.

I think Arky is two pieces away from being very good 1)effective running game 2)improved defense...but they also need an effective replacement for Mallett who probably won't be around to see an improved defense beyond this coming year...I think you guys have a couple of QB 's in line but I know nothing about how good they might be.

Well, I agree with a lot you said. You can't take that next step without a complete team.

The chips fell in place at Ark for Petrino to improve the offense more quickly. With a combination of leftover talent, recruits and transfers. Our 07 defense was statiscally one of the worse ones we have ever had. We lost all of the good players from that defense. Combine that with a DC that didn't recruit. Let's just say it's not a total shock we've struggled on defense the last couple of years.

2010 should be a good year for Ark. We have a lot of talent, experience and some depth (finally). I feel good about the "After Mallet Life". We have some good talent behind him.
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I feel the 3rd/4th years is where you can really start to see what you have in a coach. Think Ark/OM will both be pleased with what they have.

I agree and my gut tells me y'all may actually be a better "team" post-Mallett, but he certainly is an exciting transition to that more balanced and steady team.

BTW at the risk of sounding too "tenacious" (Bleuwolfe 8) just thought of another example of how defense can't win championships without effective offense.........Nebraska.....ok I'm done

[bleuwolfe]

BTW at the risk of sounding too "tenacious" (Bleuwolfe just thought of another example of how defense can't win championships without effective offense.........Nebraska.....ok I'm done

I make it a point never to watch any team named after a commodity..

[felicianareb]

BTW at the risk of sounding too "tenacious" (Bleuwolfe just thought of another example of how defense can't win championships without effective offense.........Nebraska.....ok I'm done

I make it a point never to watch any team named after a commodity..

Hey! Wait a minute! A cornhusker is not a commodity. You might make a slight case for the Buckeyes.

[bleuwolfe]

BTW at the risk of sounding too "tenacious" (Bleuwolfe just thought of another example of how defense can't win championships without effective offense.........Nebraska.....ok I'm done

I make it a point never to watch any team named after a commodity..

Hey! Wait a minute! A cornhusker is not a commodity. You might make a slight case for the Buckeyes.

the essential ingredient in cornhusker is corn 8)
cornhusking |ˈkôrnˌhəski ng |
noun
the removal of husks from ears of corn

well maybe its a stretch...