I LOVE the fact that he was drafted in the first ahead of McCoy and Clausen and all the so-called experts are having to adjust their undershorts...
Here is what I know:
1) Folks have questioned many college QB's throwing motion (the latest being Aaron Rodgers)
2) Of the 4 top QB's (Bradford, McCoy, Clausen and Tebow) Tebow is the one who routinely faced college defenses that more closely resemble NFL level talent and coaching than the other three.
3) Of the 4 top QB's, when it came to crunch time, 4th quarter, Tebow has the highest QB rating
4) Of the 4 top QB's only Tebow has won Championships
Add that to the intangibles (which truly separate great from good behind center in the NFL) and I do not view the Broncos pick as a reach. This guy is a leader (and he wasn't leading choirboys at Florida either), a fighter, a worker and a winner.
I can't wait to watch him make folks eat their words....and that "I told you so" grin on his face last night told me that he can't wait either!
Tebow does it again!
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From the combine highlights of him, it looked as if he's made marked progress with his release. I'm glad he went in the first round and I'm happy for him. Good pick for the Broncos. Were I GM it would be hard for me to pass up one of the best CFB players to ever play. Of course I probably would have picked Dex.
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badmotorfinger wrote: Of course I probably would have picked Dex.
Still wondering why the Rams took Bradford over Dex 8)
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Time will tell. Spurrier dominated the SEC with QB's that couldn't do it in the NFL. Lots of Heisman winners have nothing to go along with that trophy. I guess as long as the pass rush and rushing defense is no better than the 2008 OM squad, he'll be fine.

rebelliousb wrote:Time will tell. Spurrier dominated the SEC with QB's that couldn't do it in the NFL. Lots of Heisman winners have nothing to go along with that trophy. I guess as long as the pass rush and rushing defense is no better than the 2008 OM squad, he'll be fine.


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I just don't get the doubts about him surviving the pressure in the NFL...he certainly faced more pass rush and pressure in the SEC than McCoy or Bradford did in the Big 12 or Clausen did at ND. I heard several analysts say that Bradford isn't ready to read NFL coverages or stand up to NFL blitzes, but they aren't calling him a reach. I think given the fact that he was the first overall pick and has played only a handful of downs in two years against non-existent Big 12 pressure, he may be the biggest reach in the draft. Time will definitely tell, but if I had to bet on any of the top 4 QB's, given that Bradford is going to a wreck of an organization and has been injured basically by the last two hits he took, my money would be on Tebow.
They said his motion and technique wouldn't work in the SEC either....I think he proved them wrong. We will see.
They said his motion and technique wouldn't work in the SEC either....I think he proved them wrong. We will see.
The problem with Tebow boils down to one or two small things...one he has never worked UNDER center...he isn't going be winning the passing game at QB anywhere due to his mechanics. NFL coaches aren't going to tailor their Offense around Tebow like Meyer did.Rebchuck18 wrote:I just don't get the doubts about him surviving the pressure in the NFL...he certainly faced more pass rush and pressure in the SEC than McCoy or Bradford did in the Big 12 or Clausen did at ND. I heard several analysts say that Bradford isn't ready to read NFL coverages or stand up to NFL blitzes, but they aren't calling him a reach. I think given the fact that he was the first overall pick and has played only a handful of downs in two years against non-existent Big 12 pressure, he may be the biggest reach in the draft. Time will definitely tell, but if I had to bet on any of the top 4 QB's, given that Bradford is going to a wreck of an organization and has been injured basically by the last two hits he took, my money would be on Tebow.
They said his motion and technique wouldn't work in the SEC either....I think he proved them wrong. We will see.
I love the kid and think he has a wonderful work ethic/morals, but wait and see, he will be the next Danny Wurffel (sp?)
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Bradford and Colt weren't under center either...and Bradford never read a defense..watch his clips..pre-snap he was always looking at his coaches on the sidelines...Hagar wrote: The problem with Tebow boils down to one or two small things...one he has never worked UNDER center...he isn't going be winning the passing game at QB anywhere due to his mechanics. NFL coaches aren't going to tailor their Offense around Tebow like Meyer did.
I love the kid and think he has a wonderful work ethic/morals, but wait and see, he will be the next Danny Wurffel (sp?)
I think the mechanics and footowrk can be tweaked...don't think you can coach up fire and toughness...Tebow has both. I think Colt has fire, not real sure about the toughness...even though Bradford looks the part, not sure he has the fire or the toughness...even though Suh was a stud and Muschamp is changing things at Texas, the Big 12 is just not a physical tough conference...People talk about Florida's poor record of QB success in the NFL...the Big 12 QB's haven't exactly been filling our Pro Bowl rosters either.
If I am not mistaken, Vince Young is the only BIg 12 QB qho has started in the league in quite some time....I could be wrong though. just going off the top of my head.
I definitely agree with you on the intangibles this boy has. It's like he makes everyone around him winners. But another thing that has to be considered is that a lot of Tebow's passing yards (especially in the '08 season) came from short 2-3 yard passes, or screens, that people took to the house for 60 yards. Thus Tebow gets credit for all those yards.
But, all in all, I think he will eventually do well because of his intelligence, work ethic, and leadership abilities. Do I think he will be a Manning, or a Rothlisberger (on the field), or a Montana? No. But, I think he will wind up being a decent QB.
But I also thought Jamarcus Russell would be a Hall-of-Famer!
Just kidding, I had a feeling he would flop big time.
But, all in all, I think he will eventually do well because of his intelligence, work ethic, and leadership abilities. Do I think he will be a Manning, or a Rothlisberger (on the field), or a Montana? No. But, I think he will wind up being a decent QB.
But I also thought Jamarcus Russell would be a Hall-of-Famer!

Heath wrote:I definitely agree with you on the intangibles this boy has. It's like he makes everyone around him winners. But another thing that has to be considered is that a lot of Tebow's passing yards (especially in the '08 season) came from short 2-3 yard passes, or screens, that people took to the house for 60 yards. Thus Tebow gets credit for all those yards.
But, all in all, I think he will eventually do well because of his intelligence, work ethic, and leadership abilities. Do I think he will be a Manning, or a Rothlisberger (on the field), or a Montana? No. But, I think he will wind up being a decent QB.
But I also thought Jamarcus Russell would be a Hall-of-Famer!Just kidding, I had a feeling he would flop big time.
He did have some down field passes but I am not saying he has a gun like say...Ryan Leaf or Jevan Snead...and I know the NFL game has become more vertical, but Montana threw a whole bunch of 3-10 yard passes that got them first downs, ate up some clock and sometime broke loose. Come to think of it, so do Peyton and Eli.
Tebow does have to get rid of the ball earlier and I don't know that he will be a successful starter, but I am no more sure that McCoy or Bradford will be either. To be honest, the one who I have the most questions about IS Bradford. The guy basicall hasn't played much football in the last two years. Can anyone ever remember a first pick in the draft with less playing time in the previous season than Bradford? I can't
I think Bradford will be OK until he goes down on that right shoulder again. Then he will be out for an entire year due to surgery and rehab.Rebchuck18 wrote:Heath wrote:I definitely agree with you on the intangibles this boy has. It's like he makes everyone around him winners. But another thing that has to be considered is that a lot of Tebow's passing yards (especially in the '08 season) came from short 2-3 yard passes, or screens, that people took to the house for 60 yards. Thus Tebow gets credit for all those yards.
But, all in all, I think he will eventually do well because of his intelligence, work ethic, and leadership abilities. Do I think he will be a Manning, or a Rothlisberger (on the field), or a Montana? No. But, I think he will wind up being a decent QB.
But I also thought Jamarcus Russell would be a Hall-of-Famer!Just kidding, I had a feeling he would flop big time.
He did have some down field passes but I am not saying he has a gun like say...Ryan Leaf or Jevan Snead...and I know the NFL game has become more vertical, but Montana threw a whole bunch of 3-10 yard passes that got them first downs, ate up some clock and sometime broke loose. Come to think of it, so do Peyton and Eli.
Tebow does have to get rid of the ball earlier and I don't know that he will be a successful starter, but I am no more sure that McCoy or Bradford will be either. To be honest, the one who I have the most questions about IS Bradford. The guy basicall hasn't played much football in the last two years. Can anyone ever remember a first pick in the draft with less playing time in the previous season than Bradford? I can't
Maybe...I will have to see a Big 12 QB succeed in the NFL before I believe it...they just do not face great defenses at all (Suh, excepted) in the Big 12....Heath wrote: I think Bradford will be OK until he goes down on that right shoulder again. Then he will be out for an entire year due to surgery and rehab.
We will know about 2 or 3 years from now...
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You really think St Louis should have taken Dex with the #1 pick instead of Bradford? You have go to be kidding rightbleuwolfe wrote:stupidityRebchuck18 wrote:badmotorfinger wrote: Of course I probably would have picked Dex.
Still wondering why the Rams took Bradford over Dex 8)
