Ole Miss vs LSU Thread

[colreb74]

I think anyone that wants Nutt to go after this one bad season is crazy. The defense has been the main reason the rebs have lost most of their games this season...except for maybe Vandy.

Would your Tide keep a Nutt after a season like ours?

Is Nutt not ultimately responsible for poor play on both sides of the ball? If it's not working, take away decision making from your coordinators. Just don't spin it where you have no personal blame for a bad season.

If Nutt's willing to clean house and makes good hires, I'd be OK with keeping him.

[colreb74]

[
I hope I'm wrong, but I predict 32,000 for the BYU opener, season ticket sales equal with Coach O's last season, and fighting for 11th place in the SEC again next year!

This is exactly the problem with Ole Miss fans!! What came first the chicken or the egg???? Support your f-ing team![/quote]
The Chicken came first! Then the Egg Bowl! Not sure I get your point though.

Have you heard the lyrics, "Give me something to believe in!" that's all I ask for!

I will support our team, but you don't build a dynasty going from 9-4 to 4-8. It takes recruiting, teaching, team building & yes... coaching.

[bigtreydaddy]

[ I hope I'm wrong, but I predict 32,000 for the BYU opener, season ticket sales equal with Coach O's last season, and fighting for 11th place in the SEC again next year!

This is exactly the problem with Ole Miss fans!! What came first the chicken or the egg???? Support your f-ing team![/quote]

Agree completely. Generally speaking, we have the *beep* fans in the SEC. Now most of the folks on this board and probably NAFOOM, too, don't fall into that camp. But the majority of OM fans are the Grove types, get ahead/fall behind and leave types, or the fair weather types. Until we get our *beep* together as a fan base and start packing the Vaught on a regular basis IN THE MIDST OF A *beep* SEASON (a la SC during their down years), we will stay at the bottom of our division and deservedly so.

[colreb74]

Agree completely. Generally speaking, we have the *beep* fans in the SEC. Now most of the folks on this board and probably NAFOOM, too, don't fall into that camp. But the majority of OM fans are the Grove types, get ahead/fall behind and leave types, or the fair weather types. Until we get our *beep* together as a fan base and start packing the Vaught on a regular basis IN THE MIDST OF A *beep* SEASON (a la SC during their down years), we will stay at the bottom of our division and deservedly so.

I think we're coming back to that "product on the field" again!

People travel, pay, and stay to see a great product perform. Our marketing department sux. We've had a lot of TV coverage this year, so the football world knows we'll find a way to lose. I don't know what it will take to change that perception, but I hope it happens soon!

[jeff967]

I was in DEATH VALLEY last night, me and maybe 1000 ole miss fans. I saw a GREAT GAME, our boys came to PLAY and came to WIN. were are the OLE MISS FANS?

[Heath]

I was in DEATH VALLEY last night, me and maybe 1000 ole miss fans. I saw a GREAT GAME, our boys came to PLAY and came to WIN. were are the OLE MISS FANS?

When I was watching and listening on the radio, it sounded like there were a lot more than 1000 fans there. I thought it was actually kinda loud when Masoli scored his rushing TD early in the 4th Qt.

But then again, you were there, so I will take your word for it.

[Heath]

I think anyone that wants Nutt to go after this one bad season is crazy. The defense has been the main reason the rebs have lost most of their games this season...except for maybe Vandy.

Would your Tide keep a Nutt after a season like ours?

Is Nutt not ultimately responsible for poor play on both sides of the ball? If it's not working, take away decision making from your coordinators. Just don't spin it where you have no personal blame for a bad season.

If Nutt's willing to clean house and makes good hires, I'd be OK with keeping him.

Colreb74, no offense, but you're an idiot. Did or did not Bama keep Schula for a few years, even though they were going to bowls like the Independence, if they went bowling at all. And Bama's fans are more hardcore than ours.

I have a feeling that if the D has another bad year, then Nutt will get rid of Nix.

Why would you want Nutt to "clean house"? WE JUST SCORED 36 POINTS ON THE #5 TEAM IN THE NATION THAT IS KNOWN FOR ITS DEFENSE!! We put up more points against LSU than ANY OTHER TEAM HAS THIS YEAR! Yes, more than Auburn, Bama, Florida, State, or Tennessee!

It's just that your comments make no sense to me (but then again, I'm not very intelligent), like teaching your son to take off his Ole Miss hat when you see a fan of the opposing team coming your way. That's being a coward. You're unbelievable.

[colreb74]

I think anyone that wants Nutt to go after this one bad season is crazy. The defense has been the main reason the rebs have lost most of their games this season...except for maybe Vandy.

Would your Tide keep a Nutt after a season like ours?

Is Nutt not ultimately responsible for poor play on both sides of the ball? If it's not working, take away decision making from your coordinators. Just don't spin it where you have no personal blame for a bad season.

If Nutt's willing to clean house and makes good hires, I'd be OK with keeping him.

Colreb74, no offense, but you're an idiot. Did or did not Bama keep Schula for a few years, even though they were going to bowls like the Independence, if they went bowling at all. And Bama's fans are more hardcore than ours.

I have a feeling that if the D has another bad year, then Nutt will get rid of Nix.

Why would you want Nutt to "clean house"? WE JUST SCORED 36 POINTS ON THE #5 TEAM IN THE NATION THAT IS KNOWN FOR ITS DEFENSE!! We put up more points against LSU than ANY OTHER TEAM HAS THIS YEAR! Yes, more than Auburn, Bama, Florida, State, or Tennessee!

It's just that your comments make no sense to me (but then again, I'm not very intelligent), like teaching your son to take off his Ole Miss hat when you see a fan of the opposing team coming your way. That's being a coward. You're unbelievable.

You can keep your opinions, and in not going to argue them. All I ask is that you get your facts straight. It was Schula's "bad" 6 win season that was his last, one year after a 10 win season. He was fired at 6-6 and didn't coach the bowl game which Bama lost to fall 6-7. Maybe this is impossible for you to comprehend, but for some schools losing seasons are unacceptable. Others pat the coach on the back and say "it's OK!"

Let's just forget the losses and brag about those 36 points!

[Heath]

[quote="colreb74
Colreb74, no offense, but you're an idiot. Did or did not Bama keep Schula for a few years, even though they were going to bowls like the Independence, if they went bowling at all. And Bama's fans are more hardcore than ours.

I have a feeling that if the D has another bad year, then Nutt will get rid of Nix.

Why would you want Nutt to "clean house"? WE JUST SCORED 36 POINTS ON THE #5 TEAM IN THE NATION THAT IS KNOWN FOR ITS DEFENSE!! We put up more points against LSU than ANY OTHER TEAM HAS THIS YEAR! Yes, more than Auburn, Bama, Florida, State, or Tennessee!

It's just that your comments make no sense to me (but then again, I'm not very intelligent), like teaching your son to take off his Ole Miss hat when you see a fan of the opposing team coming your way. That's being a coward. You're unbelievable.[/quote]
You can keep your opinions, and in not going to argue them. All I ask is that you get your facts straight. It was Schula's "bad" 6 win season that was his last, one year after a 10 win season. He was fired at 6-6 and didn't coach the bowl game which Bama lost to fall 6-7. Maybe this is impossible for you to comprehend, but for some schools losing seasons are unacceptable. Others pat the coach on the back and say "it's OK!"

Let's just forget the losses and brag about those 36 points![/quote]

I apologize for the comments, I shouldn't have made those.

But my point is, you don't fire a coach after 1 bad season, or expect him to "clean house". Now, if the Rebels don't go bowling next year, then I would expect a "cleaning of the house". But the worst part of our team was the D, who had many young people on there this season and had one of their Senior leaders (Lockett) go down in the 2nd or 3rd game of the season can't remember). Now, if the same thing happened next year with the D, I will expect Nutt to do something to change it.

I will ask everyone this question. If two people have been married for 5 or 10 years and then they have a big argument, do they just throw their hands up and get a divorce? Or, do they say "Ok, let's make some changes, get our marriage back on the right track, and continue."? I, personally, would want to do the latter.

If Ole Miss or Houston Nutt made some drastic changes after this season, it would send a bad message to other schools and other coaches that OM might consider hiring. It would show that we are essentially saying, "We are committed to you and behind you......until we hit the first little bump in the road." Just my opinion.

[colreb74]

Coaches are hired to do a job. They are not "married" to a school. If you paid your wife $2.6 million per year, you would probably have some expectations for sex frequency and neither of you would consider it much of a "relationship".

Good or bad, coaches are no more married to a school than we are to our jobs! We pay a guy $2.6 million, our expectations are warranted!

To answer your question: What message would it send?

I suggest it sends the message, "Failure is unacceptable!"

That is the message that Bama and others send in their coaching hires/fires. All of us who are honest with ourselves know this fact, "Bama would NOT tolerate this level of failure."

[JustBlues]

Coaches are hired to do a job. They are not "married" to a school. If you paid your wife $2.6 million per year, you would probably have some expectations for sex frequency and neither of you would consider it much of a "relationship".

Good or bad, coaches are no more married to a school than we are to our jobs! We pay a guy $2.6 million, our expectations are warranted!

To answer your question: What message would it send?

I suggest it sends the message, "Failure is unacceptable!"

That is the message that Bama and others send in their coaching hires/fires. All of us who are honest with ourselves know this fact, "Bama would NOT tolerate this level of failure."

$2.6 million is not a lot to pay a coach. No, he isn't the best coach in the conference but he isn't any near being the highest paid either. You get what you pay for. There are no bargain coaches. If you pay $2.6 million for a coach in the SEC, you are going to have some good years- no championships years but good years nonetheless-- and some bad years. That's exactly what we have. You'd be hard pressed to find many coaches at that salary that have done any better.

[colreb74]

$2.6 million is not a lot to pay a coach. No, he isn't the best coach in the conference but he isn't any near being the highest paid either. You get what you pay for. There are no bargain coaches. If you pay $2.6 million for a coach in the SEC, you are going to have some good years- no championships years but good years nonetheless-- and some bad years. That's exactly what we have. You'd be hard pressed to find many coaches at that salary that have done any better.

Guess you're right... Why don't you tell Auburn & South Carolina that their "bargain" coaches won't get you to Atlanta for the SEC Championship? Then explain your philosophy to the rest of the teams who will be playing in BCS bowl games.

Now.... Welcome back to reality! Nutt is tied for 13th highest salary among NCAA football coaches. Can you Tell me you don't see any "champion" coaches that make less money?

1. Mack Brown, Texas
Pac-10
$5,100,000
2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
Big 12
$4,300,000
3. Urban Meyer, Florida
3. Lane Kiffin
SEC
USC
$4,000,000
$4,000,000
4. Nick Saban, Alabama
SEC
$3,900,000
5. Les Miles, LSU
SEC
$3,800,000
6. Jim Tressel, Ohio State
Big Ten
$3,722,000
7. Mark Richt, Georgia
SEC
$3,096,576
8. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
Big Ten
$3,030,000
9. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas
SEC
$2,900,000
10. Mark Richt, Georgia
SEC
$2,900,000
11. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan
Big Ten
$2,900,000
12. Jeff Tedford, California
Big Ten
$2,807,500
T13. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
Big 12
$2,500,000
T13. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss
SEC
$2,500,000
T15. Mark Mangino, Kansas
Big 12
$2,300,000
T16. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech
ACC
$2,300,000
18. Greg Schiano, Rutgers
Big East
$2,250,000
T19. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
ACC
$2,100,000
T19. Butch Davis, North Carolina
ACC
$2,100,000
T21. June Jones, SMU
C-USA
$2,000,000
T21. Lane Kiffin, TN (Gone to USC)
SEC
$2,000,000
T21. Gene Chizik, Auburn
SEC
$2,000,000
24. Al Groh, Virginia
ACC
$1,875,000
25. Bo Pelini, Nebraska
Big 12
$1,851,000
T26. Jeff Tedford, California
Pac-10
$1,850,000
T26. Steve Sarkisian, Washington
Pac-10
$1,850,000
T28. Mike Sherman, Texas A&M
Big 12
$1,800,000
T28. Art Briles, Baylor
Big 12
$1,800,000
T28. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
SEC
$1,800,000
T28. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
Big Ten
$1,800,000
T32. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland
ACC
$1,750,000
T32. Mike Leach, Texas Tech
Big 12
$1,750,000
T34. Chip Kelly, Oregon
Pac-10
$1,500,000
T34. Joe Paterno, Penn State
Big Ten
$1,500,000
T34. Randy Edsall, Connecticut
Big East
$1,500,000
T34. David Cutcliffe, Duke
ACC
$1,500,000
T34. Randy Shannon, Miami
ACC
$1,500,000
T34. Jim Leavitt, USF
Big East
$1,500,000
40. Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville
Big East
$1,450,000
41. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
Big Ten
$1,400,000
42. Ron Zook, Illinois
Big Ten
$1,350,000
T43. Dave Wannstedt, Pitt
Big East
$1,300,000
T43. Gary Patterson, TCU
MWC
$1,300,000
T45. Danny Hope, Purdue
Big Ten
$1,250,000
T45. Rick Neuheisel, UCLA
Pac-10
$1,250,000
T45. Pat Hill, Fresno State
WAC
$1,250,000
T45. Rich Brooks, Kentucky
SEC
$1,250,000
T49. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati
Big East
$1,200,000
T49. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest
ACC
$1,200,000
T49. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
SEC
$1,200,000
52. Skip Holtz, East Carolina
C-USA
$1,160,000
T53. George O'Leary, UCF
C-USA
$1,150,000
T53. Paul Rhoads, Iowa State
Big 12
$1,150,000
T55. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State
Pac-10
$1,100,000
T55. Todd Graham, Tulsa
C-USA
$1,100,000
T55. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State
ACC
$1,100,000
T55. Greg McMackin, Hawaii
WAC
$1,100,000
T55. Dan Hawkins, Colorado
Big 12
$1,100,000
T55. Mike Riley, Oregon State
Pac-10
$1,100,000
T55. Bill Snyder, Kansas State
Big 12
$1,100,000
T55. Doug Marrone, Syracuse
Big East
$1,100,000
T55. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt
SEC
$1,100,000
64. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State
Big 12
$1,050,000
65. Mike Stoops, Arizona
Pac-10
$1,025,000
T66. Frank Spaziani, Boston College
ACC
$1,000,000
T66. Dabo Swinney, Clemson
ACC
$1,000,000
T66. Tim Brewster, Minnesota
Big Ten
$1,000,000
T66. Jim Harbaugh, Stanford
Pac-10
$1,000,000
70. Tommy West, Memphis
C-USA
$950,000
71. Chris Petersen, Boise State
WAC
$900,000
T72. Bill Stewart, West Virginia
Big East
$800,000
T72. Larry Fedora, Southern Miss
C-USA
$800,000
T72. Steve Fairchild, Colorado St
MWC
$800,000
T72. Brady Hoke, San Diego State
MWC
$800,000
T76. Dave Christensen, Wyoming
MWC
$750,000
T76. Ken Niumatalolo, Navy
Ind.
$750,000
T76. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
Big Ten
$750,000
T76. Mike Locksley, New Mexico
MWC
$750,000
T80. Kevin Sumlin, Houston
C-USA
$700,000
T80. Kyle Whittingham, Utah
MWC
$700,000
T82. Bronco Mendenhall, BYU
MWC
$650,000
T82. Stan Brock, Army
Ind.
$650,000
T82. Bill Lynch, Indiana
Big Ten
$650,000
T85. Paul Wulff, Washington State
Pac-10
$600,000
T85. Bob Toledo, Tulane
C-USA
$600,000
T85. Troy Calhoun, Air Force
MWC
$600,000
88. Al Golden, Temple
MAC
$575,000
89. Mark Snyder, Marshall
C-USA
$500,000
90. Mike Price, UTEP
C-USA
$475,000
91. "That other QB from Arkansas" Tomey, San Jose State
WAC
$460,000
T92. Mike Sanford, UNLV
MWC
$450,000
T92. Tim Beckman, Toledo
MAC
$450,000
T94. David Bailiff, Rice
CUSA 2
$400,000
T94. Frank Solich, Ohio
MAC
$400,000
T94. Derek Dooley, La. Tech
WAC
$400,000
T94. Gary Andersen, Utah State
WAC
$400,000
T94. DeWayne Walker, NM  State
WAC
$400,000
99. Mario Cristobal, FIU
Sun Belt
$390,000
T100. Chris Ault, Nevada
WAC
$375,000
T100. Howard Schnellenberger, FAU
Sun Belt
$375,000

[JustBlues]

$2.6 million is not a lot to pay a coach. No, he isn't the best coach in the conference but he isn't any near being the highest paid either. You get what you pay for. There are no bargain coaches. If you pay $2.6 million for a coach in the SEC, you are going to have some good years- no championships years but good years nonetheless-- and some bad years. That's exactly what we have. You'd be hard pressed to find many coaches at that salary that have done any better.

Guess you're right... Why don't you tell Auburn & South Carolina that their "bargain" coaches won't get you to Atlanta for the SEC Championship? Then explain your philosophy to the rest of the teams who will be playing in BCS bowl games.

Now.... Welcome back to reality! Nutt is tied for 13th highest salary among NCAA football coaches. Can you Tell me you don't see any "champion" coaches that make less money?

1. Mack Brown, Texas
Pac-10
$5,100,000
2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
Big 12
$4,300,000
3. Urban Meyer, Florida
3. Lane Kiffin
SEC
USC
$4,000,000
$4,000,000
4. Nick Saban, Alabama
SEC
$3,900,000
5. Les Miles, LSU
SEC
$3,800,000
6. Jim Tressel, Ohio State
Big Ten
$3,722,000
7. Mark Richt, Georgia
SEC
$3,096,576
8. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
Big Ten
$3,030,000
9. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas
SEC
$2,900,000
10. Mark Richt, Georgia
SEC
$2,900,000
11. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan
Big Ten
$2,900,000
12. Jeff Tedford, California
Big Ten
$2,807,500
T13. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
Big 12
$2,500,000
T13. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss
SEC
$2,500,000
T15. Mark Mangino, Kansas
Big 12
$2,300,000
T16. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech
ACC
$2,300,000
18. Greg Schiano, Rutgers
Big East
$2,250,000
T19. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
ACC
$2,100,000
T19. Butch Davis, North Carolina
ACC
$2,100,000
T21. June Jones, SMU
C-USA
$2,000,000
T21. Lane Kiffin, TN (Gone to USC)
SEC
$2,000,000
T21. Gene Chizik, Auburn
SEC
$2,000,000
24. Al Groh, Virginia
ACC
$1,875,000
25. Bo Pelini, Nebraska
Big 12
$1,851,000
T26. Jeff Tedford, California
Pac-10
$1,850,000
T26. Steve Sarkisian, Washington
Pac-10
$1,850,000
T28. Mike Sherman, Texas A&M
Big 12
$1,800,000
T28. Art Briles, Baylor
Big 12
$1,800,000
T28. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
SEC
$1,800,000
T28. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
Big Ten
$1,800,000
T32. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland
ACC
$1,750,000
T32. Mike Leach, Texas Tech
Big 12
$1,750,000
T34. Chip Kelly, Oregon
Pac-10
$1,500,000
T34. Joe Paterno, Penn State
Big Ten
$1,500,000
T34. Randy Edsall, Connecticut
Big East
$1,500,000
T34. David Cutcliffe, Duke
ACC
$1,500,000
T34. Randy Shannon, Miami
ACC
$1,500,000
T34. Jim Leavitt, USF
Big East
$1,500,000
40. Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville
Big East
$1,450,000
41. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
Big Ten
$1,400,000
42. Ron Zook, Illinois
Big Ten
$1,350,000
T43. Dave Wannstedt, Pitt
Big East
$1,300,000
T43. Gary Patterson, TCU
MWC
$1,300,000
T45. Danny Hope, Purdue
Big Ten
$1,250,000
T45. Rick Neuheisel, UCLA
Pac-10
$1,250,000
T45. Pat Hill, Fresno State
WAC
$1,250,000
T45. Rich Brooks, Kentucky
SEC
$1,250,000
T49. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati
Big East
$1,200,000
T49. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest
ACC
$1,200,000
T49. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
SEC
$1,200,000
52. Skip Holtz, East Carolina
C-USA
$1,160,000
T53. George O'Leary, UCF
C-USA
$1,150,000
T53. Paul Rhoads, Iowa State
Big 12
$1,150,000
T55. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State
Pac-10
$1,100,000
T55. Todd Graham, Tulsa
C-USA
$1,100,000
T55. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State
ACC
$1,100,000
T55. Greg McMackin, Hawaii
WAC
$1,100,000
T55. Dan Hawkins, Colorado
Big 12
$1,100,000
T55. Mike Riley, Oregon State
Pac-10
$1,100,000
T55. Bill Snyder, Kansas State
Big 12
$1,100,000
T55. Doug Marrone, Syracuse
Big East
$1,100,000
T55. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt
SEC
$1,100,000
64. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State
Big 12
$1,050,000
65. Mike Stoops, Arizona
Pac-10
$1,025,000
T66. Frank Spaziani, Boston College
ACC
$1,000,000
T66. Dabo Swinney, Clemson
ACC
$1,000,000
T66. Tim Brewster, Minnesota
Big Ten
$1,000,000
T66. Jim Harbaugh, Stanford
Pac-10
$1,000,000
70. Tommy West, Memphis
C-USA
$950,000
71. Chris Petersen, Boise State
WAC
$900,000
T72. Bill Stewart, West Virginia
Big East
$800,000
T72. Larry Fedora, Southern Miss
C-USA
$800,000
T72. Steve Fairchild, Colorado St
MWC
$800,000
T72. Brady Hoke, San Diego State
MWC
$800,000
T76. Dave Christensen, Wyoming
MWC
$750,000
T76. Ken Niumatalolo, Navy
Ind.
$750,000
T76. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
Big Ten
$750,000
T76. Mike Locksley, New Mexico
MWC
$750,000
T80. Kevin Sumlin, Houston
C-USA
$700,000
T80. Kyle Whittingham, Utah
MWC
$700,000
T82. Bronco Mendenhall, BYU
MWC
$650,000
T82. Stan Brock, Army
Ind.
$650,000
T82. Bill Lynch, Indiana
Big Ten
$650,000
T85. Paul Wulff, Washington State
Pac-10
$600,000
T85. Bob Toledo, Tulane
C-USA
$600,000
T85. Troy Calhoun, Air Force
MWC
$600,000
88. Al Golden, Temple
MAC
$575,000
89. Mark Snyder, Marshall
C-USA
$500,000
90. Mike Price, UTEP
C-USA
$475,000
91. "That other QB from Arkansas" Tomey, San Jose State
WAC
$460,000
T92. Mike Sanford, UNLV
MWC
$450,000
T92. Tim Beckman, Toledo
MAC
$450,000
T94. David Bailiff, Rice
CUSA 2
$400,000
T94. Frank Solich, Ohio
MAC
$400,000
T94. Derek Dooley, La. Tech
WAC
$400,000
T94. Gary Andersen, Utah State
WAC
$400,000
T94. DeWayne Walker, NM  State
WAC
$400,000
99. Mario Cristobal, FIU
Sun Belt
$390,000
T100. Chris Ault, Nevada
WAC
$375,000
T100. Howard Schnellenberger, FAU
Sun Belt
$375,000

by all means, list all of the coaches that make $2.6 million less who have 43 or more wins in the SEC.

[JustBlues]

$2.6 million is not a lot to pay a coach. No, he isn't the best coach in the conference but he isn't any near being the highest paid either. You get what you pay for. There are no bargain coaches. If you pay $2.6 million for a coach in the SEC, you are going to have some good years- no championships years but good years nonetheless-- and some bad years. That's exactly what we have. You'd be hard pressed to find many coaches at that salary that have done any better.

Guess you're right... Why don't you tell Auburn & South Carolina that their "bargain" coaches won't get you to Atlanta for the SEC Championship? Then explain your philosophy to the rest of the teams who will be playing in BCS bowl games.

Now.... Welcome back to reality! Nutt is tied for 13th highest salary among NCAA football coaches. Can you Tell me you don't see any "champion" coaches that make less money?

1. Mack Brown, Texas
Pac-10
$5,100,000
2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
Big 12
$4,300,000
3. Urban Meyer, Florida
3. Lane Kiffin
SEC
USC
$4,000,000
$4,000,000
4. Nick Saban, Alabama
SEC
$3,900,000
5. Les Miles, LSU
SEC
$3,800,000
6. Jim Tressel, Ohio State
Big Ten
$3,722,000
7. Mark Richt, Georgia
SEC
$3,096,576
8. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
Big Ten
$3,030,000
9. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas
SEC
$2,900,000
10. Mark Richt, Georgia
SEC
$2,900,000
11. Rich Rodriguez, Michigan
Big Ten
$2,900,000
12. Jeff Tedford, California
Big Ten
$2,807,500
T13. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
Big 12
$2,500,000
T13. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss
SEC
$2,500,000
T15. Mark Mangino, Kansas
Big 12
$2,300,000
T16. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech
ACC
$2,300,000
18. Greg Schiano, Rutgers
Big East
$2,250,000
T19. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
ACC
$2,100,000
T19. Butch Davis, North Carolina
ACC
$2,100,000
T21. June Jones, SMU
C-USA
$2,000,000
T21. Lane Kiffin, TN (Gone to USC)
SEC
$2,000,000
T21. Gene Chizik, Auburn
SEC
$2,000,000
24. Al Groh, Virginia
ACC
$1,875,000
25. Bo Pelini, Nebraska
Big 12
$1,851,000
T26. Jeff Tedford, California
Pac-10
$1,850,000
T26. Steve Sarkisian, Washington
Pac-10
$1,850,000
T28. Mike Sherman, Texas A&M
Big 12
$1,800,000
T28. Art Briles, Baylor
Big 12
$1,800,000
T28. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
SEC
$1,800,000
T28. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
Big Ten
$1,800,000
T32. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland
ACC
$1,750,000
T32. Mike Leach, Texas Tech
Big 12
$1,750,000
T34. Chip Kelly, Oregon
Pac-10
$1,500,000
T34. Joe Paterno, Penn State
Big Ten
$1,500,000
T34. Randy Edsall, Connecticut
Big East
$1,500,000
T34. David Cutcliffe, Duke
ACC
$1,500,000
T34. Randy Shannon, Miami
ACC
$1,500,000
T34. Jim Leavitt, USF
Big East
$1,500,000
40. Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville
Big East
$1,450,000
41. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
Big Ten
$1,400,000
42. Ron Zook, Illinois
Big Ten
$1,350,000
T43. Dave Wannstedt, Pitt
Big East
$1,300,000
T43. Gary Patterson, TCU
MWC
$1,300,000
T45. Danny Hope, Purdue
Big Ten
$1,250,000
T45. Rick Neuheisel, UCLA
Pac-10
$1,250,000
T45. Pat Hill, Fresno State
WAC
$1,250,000
T45. Rich Brooks, Kentucky
SEC
$1,250,000
T49. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati
Big East
$1,200,000
T49. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest
ACC
$1,200,000
T49. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
SEC
$1,200,000
52. Skip Holtz, East Carolina
C-USA
$1,160,000
T53. George O'Leary, UCF
C-USA
$1,150,000
T53. Paul Rhoads, Iowa State
Big 12
$1,150,000
T55. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State
Pac-10
$1,100,000
T55. Todd Graham, Tulsa
C-USA
$1,100,000
T55. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State
ACC
$1,100,000
T55. Greg McMackin, Hawaii
WAC
$1,100,000
T55. Dan Hawkins, Colorado
Big 12
$1,100,000
T55. Mike Riley, Oregon State
Pac-10
$1,100,000
T55. Bill Snyder, Kansas State
Big 12
$1,100,000
T55. Doug Marrone, Syracuse
Big East
$1,100,000
T55. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt
SEC
$1,100,000
64. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State
Big 12
$1,050,000
65. Mike Stoops, Arizona
Pac-10
$1,025,000
T66. Frank Spaziani, Boston College
ACC
$1,000,000
T66. Dabo Swinney, Clemson
ACC
$1,000,000
T66. Tim Brewster, Minnesota
Big Ten
$1,000,000
T66. Jim Harbaugh, Stanford
Pac-10
$1,000,000
70. Tommy West, Memphis
C-USA
$950,000
71. Chris Petersen, Boise State
WAC
$900,000
T72. Bill Stewart, West Virginia
Big East
$800,000
T72. Larry Fedora, Southern Miss
C-USA
$800,000
T72. Steve Fairchild, Colorado St
MWC
$800,000
T72. Brady Hoke, San Diego State
MWC
$800,000
T76. Dave Christensen, Wyoming
MWC
$750,000
T76. Ken Niumatalolo, Navy
Ind.
$750,000
T76. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
Big Ten
$750,000
T76. Mike Locksley, New Mexico
MWC
$750,000
T80. Kevin Sumlin, Houston
C-USA
$700,000
T80. Kyle Whittingham, Utah
MWC
$700,000
T82. Bronco Mendenhall, BYU
MWC
$650,000
T82. Stan Brock, Army
Ind.
$650,000
T82. Bill Lynch, Indiana
Big Ten
$650,000
T85. Paul Wulff, Washington State
Pac-10
$600,000
T85. Bob Toledo, Tulane
C-USA
$600,000
T85. Troy Calhoun, Air Force
MWC
$600,000
88. Al Golden, Temple
MAC
$575,000
89. Mark Snyder, Marshall
C-USA
$500,000
90. Mike Price, UTEP
C-USA
$475,000
91. "That other QB from Arkansas" Tomey, San Jose State
WAC
$460,000
T92. Mike Sanford, UNLV
MWC
$450,000
T92. Tim Beckman, Toledo
MAC
$450,000
T94. David Bailiff, Rice
CUSA 2
$400,000
T94. Frank Solich, Ohio
MAC
$400,000
T94. Derek Dooley, La. Tech
WAC
$400,000
T94. Gary Andersen, Utah State
WAC
$400,000
T94. DeWayne Walker, NM  State
WAC
$400,000
99. Mario Cristobal, FIU
Sun Belt
$390,000
T100. Chris Ault, Nevada
WAC
$375,000
T100. Howard Schnellenberger, FAU
Sun Belt
$375,000

and answering your quesion, no I don't see any coaches on that list making less money that have won an SEC championship. I guarantee you that if one making less ever does win, or even seriously compete, for an SEC championship, they will jump to the top of the list, whether at their current school or at a new job. $2.6 million will not buy an SEC champion coach.

[colreb74]

"JustBlues"

and answering your quesion, no I don't see any coaches on that list making less money that have won an SEC championship. I guarantee you that if one making less ever does win, or even seriously compete, for an SEC championship, they will jump to the top of the list, whether at their current school or at a new job. $2.6 million will not buy an SEC champion coach.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're missing something here.

First, I said Championship coaches, not SEC championships... But since you brought it up, Spurrier comes to mind.... Maybe it was before your time, but he won SEC championships.

Second, Why do you still say "If..."????? Time to snap you out of the trance...

Not trying to insult your intelligence, but one of them WILL win the SEC Championship THIS YEAR!!!! That is the point i was getting at! It's not a hypothetical anymore! Have you been following the conference this year???

The championship game is set!

Chizik or Spurrier WILL win an SEC Championship this season. Nutt makes more than either of them.

$2.6 million is a good salary than CAN buy a championship coach... Case and Point!