Too many Crazy posters

JoeRebel · Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:30 pm

You know I used to post here alot, and sometimes I would post out of emotion, but some of the posts that I have read here this week are the reason that I no longer post.

Our program is in decline? Tyrone Nix is terrible? Wish Nutt was gone? Some of you guys are either so short minded that you forget where the bathroom is, or all you wanna do is front run. Can you not remember what this program was like under Orgeron? We went from 0-8 in the SEC to back-to-back 9 win seasons and 2 Cotton Bowl victories. In one our defense held in check one of the NATION'S top offenses, and in the second our defense SHUT DOWN a top offense when our offense tried to give the game away.

I will admit that in hindsight, I feel that the Masoli experiment might not have been the best idea, but I can't recall a single person on this board saying that Masoli was a bad idea (FOR HIS ON THE FIELD PLAY) in August.

Wake up, 3 years ago you were begging for a 9 win season and now you want wholesale changes after you got 2 of them. If the defense is as bad next year, as it was this year, then you can start talking about dismissal.

Sorry I wanted to just keep this to myself, but some of the posts in here have become childish and ridiculous.

------------------ · Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:46 pm

JoeRebel wrote:You know I used to post here alot, and sometimes I would post out of emotion, but some of the posts that I have read here this week are the reason that I no longer post.

Our program is in decline? Tyrone Nix is terrible? Wish Nutt was gone? Some of you guys are either so short minded that you forget where the bathroom is, or all you wanna do is front run. Can you not remember what this program was like under Orgeron? We went from 0-8 in the SEC to back-to-back 9 win seasons and 2 Cotton Bowl victories. In one our defense held in check one of the NATION'S top offenses, and in the second our defense SHUT DOWN a top offense when our offense tried to give the game away.

I will admit that in hindsight, I feel that the Masoli experiment might not have been the best idea, but I can't recall a single person on this board saying that Masoli was a bad idea (FOR HIS ON THE FIELD PLAY) in August.

Wake up, 3 years ago you were begging for a 9 win season and now you want wholesale changes after you got 2 of them. If the defense is as bad next year, as it was this year, then you can start talking about dismissal.

Sorry I wanted to just keep this to myself, but some of the posts in here have become childish and ridiculous.

I agree, Joe...some of us need to take a step backwards off the ledge.

Joe · Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:48 pm

There needs to be a balance, I agree. While I'm thankful for the two 9 win seasons, it seems appropriate to be unhappy with this season. I'll just say it this way. There are many things we know now about Houston Nutt that we didn't know 2 years ago. Some good. Some not so good.

For me personally, Houston Nutt told us all that he could get to Atlanta with these freshmen. I am all for giving him the time to do that.

I am also all for holding him accountable if he doesn't.

I'm not quiet sure how much more fair I could be than that, or what more would be expected of me as a fan.

Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:02 pm

It's the nature of the sport. Always has been always will be. I've already accepted that.

JoeRebel · Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:27 pm

I just want it declared right now. The next manning to come along will be my starting quarterback O.o

ReservoirReb · Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:29 pm

JoeRebel wrote:You know I used to post here alot, and sometimes I would post out of emotion, but some of the posts that I have read here this week are the reason that I no longer post.

Our program is in decline? Tyrone Nix is terrible? Wish Nutt was gone? Some of you guys are either so short minded that you forget where the bathroom is, or all you wanna do is front run. Can you not remember what this program was like under Orgeron? We went from 0-8 in the SEC to back-to-back 9 win seasons and 2 Cotton Bowl victories. In one our defense held in check one of the NATION'S top offenses, and in the second our defense SHUT DOWN a top offense when our offense tried to give the game away.

I will admit that in hindsight, I feel that the Masoli experiment might not have been the best idea, but I can't recall a single person on this board saying that Masoli was a bad idea (FOR HIS ON THE FIELD PLAY) in August.

Wake up, 3 years ago you were begging for a 9 win season and now you want wholesale changes after you got 2 of them. If the defense is as bad next year, as it was this year, then you can start talking about dismissal.

Sorry I wanted to just keep this to myself, but some of the posts in here have become childish and ridiculous.

Amen! I whole heartedly agree. I, personally, do not feel like this coaching staff that everyone was fawning over for the past couple of years has all of a sudden forgotten how to coach.

hottytoddyrebel · Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:04 pm

Yeah, my biggest worry right now isn't with our 4-8 record this year (The SEC West was nasty this year), it's with our attrition. I'm also worried about how our team is now being perceived nationally(media/non ole miss fans) and statewide. We had built so much momentum in 08 and 09, it seemed impossible but I think we have lost most all of it. The dagger of it all was the loss to State this past weekend. Coach Nutt put so much emphasis on beating Dan Mullen and State and wasn't able to produce. He may have not talked about it much publicly, but privately he was absolutely irate at how last years game ended up. The team often ran extra after practice during the off-season because of the loss to State. After saying all of that I still have faith that this program can continue on our path to Atlanta if we are able to pull in a solid recruiting class this year (ie. keeping the commits we have). I don't believe any drastic staff changes are necessary at this point. I would be ok with a certain coach on offense being let go as well as a certain one on defense (not T. Nix), but I don't believe that an overhaul of our staff is necessary right now. We have built a lot of recruiting momentum around the southeast and that relies on our coaches staying where they are. If the the majority of our staff was fired right now it would set us back years in recruiting.

colreb74 · Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:50 pm

Going to Atlanta would be a huge turn around from this years 1-7 in conference play. For me that's what makes this year so terrible. 0-8 in conference play was unacceptable, but were back to 1-7 and "that's OK" or "not so bad"?

If were miraculously 9-4 next year, and back to 4-8 the next are we willing to live with sporadic jolts of decent seasons here and there?

I'd like to see consistent improvement with "minor" steps back in rebuilding seasons. This wasn't a "rebuilding" season! If it was, what positions did we develop for next year? QB? No! He's 1 and done. DB's? Hell no! They showed no improvement the last few games. WR's? Maybe some... But nothing to write home about!

I understand rebuilding is necessary, but I didn't see it this year. Only saw pitiful performance.

hottytoddyrebel · Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:59 pm

colreb74 wrote:Going to Atlanta would be a huge turn around from this years 1-7 in conference play. For me that's what makes this year so terrible. 0-8 in conference play was unacceptable, but were back to 1-7 and "that's OK" or "not so bad"?

If were miraculously 9-4 next year, and back to 4-8 the next are we willing to live with sporadic jolts of decent seasons here and there?

I'd like to see consistent improvement with "minor" steps back in rebuilding seasons. This wasn't a "rebuilding" season! If it was, what positions did we develop for next year? QB? No! He's 1 and done. DB's? Hell no! They showed no improvement the last few games. WR's? Maybe some... But nothing to write home about!

I understand rebuilding is necessary, but I didn't see it this year. Only saw pitiful performance.

I am not happy with this season either, 4-8 is not acceptable. However, let's look at who played for us on defense this year.

DT: The interior was solid with proven veterans who didnt make much noise this year, I'll admit that they underachieved.

DE: Young, young, young. Jason Jones finally took the first meaningful snaps of his career. Gerald Rivers also took the first meaningful snaps of his career(he isn't very good, nor does he put in the work ethic at practice). Carlos Thompson and Delvin Jones are both freshmen who played their first meaningful snaps. Cameron Whigham although i thought played well was again a true freshman, taking his first meaningful snaps. Wayne Dorsey was also taking his first ever D1 SEC snaps. I will admit he underachieved. DT played a little DE, he isn't a natural DE. Of course Kentrell our only veteran went down.

LB: Mike Marry a Freshman was playing the first snaps of his career. Sure this group should have been better with experienced players like Cornell and Walker. But lets be honest how many SEC schools would Walker start at? And of course there is Kight who I thought had a good season. Clarence Jackson was showing some really good signs before he was kicked off the team, however he was only a freshman. DT I thought played well when at LB.

CB: Jeremey McGee although a veteran is not a good football player and would not start at any other SEC school. Charles Sawyer is extremely talented however, he was a redshirt freshman. Tony Grimes played a lot as a true freshman (maybe more than he should have). Marcus Temple was always thought of as a good nickel corner. Our coaches weren't sure he could ever contribute as a every down corner, well this year he had to. Frank Crawford played early in the season who is also a red shirt freshman taking his first ever snaps.

S: Johnny Brown underachieved during his senior year. His most impressive year was still his freshman season. Fon Ingram is another guy who would not start at another SEC school. Damien Jackson although really talented was in his first season of D1 SEC football. I thought he played too aggressive at times during the season and it cost us. Brishen Matthews, also another freshman who had to contribute with his first ever D1 SEC snaps.

A lot of young talented players. Give our coaches some time to work with these guys.

Chucky_38 · Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:19 am

I agree that we all need to step back. I don't have the faith I had in Nutt last year, but I think thats normal after this kind of season.

colreb74 · Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:31 am

Chucky_38 wrote:I agree that we all need to step back. I don't have the faith I had in Nutt last year, but I think thats normal after this kind of season.

Let's step back (like our Rebels did) and pray we ALL can move on next year!