Leach says

bbqit · Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:36 pm

Santa's list

JustBlues · Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:46 pm

As more and more jump on the Leach bandwagon, let me go on the record as saying, once again and as plainly as I can, I believe that if we hire Leach as our head coach we will be in a worse position than we are now in a few years. He might have one really good season and get everyone excited, but in the end we will not win consistently in the SEC under him and the community will be more fractured than it is now.

With that said, I do not believe that we will hire Leach. I do think that there is a good chance that Arizona would consider hiring him. I would not be surprised at all if they hired him and he was successful there. Then, inevitably, someone will come back and say "see we should have hired him". To that I just say, success there does not equal success here.

Rebchuck18 · Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:47 pm

bbqit wrote:Santa's list

I just spoke to Santa and he said that Rich Rod is not on his good list 8)

Rebchuck18 · Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:48 pm

JustBlues wrote:As more and more jump on the Leach bandwagon, let me go on the record as saying, once again and as plainly as I can, I believe that if we hire Leach as our head coach we will be in a worse position than we are now in a few years. He might have one really good season and get everyone excited, but in the end we will not win consistently in the SEC under him and the community will be more fractured than it is now.

With that said, I do not believe that we will hire Leach. I do think that there is a good chance that Arizona would consider hiring him. I would not be surprised at all if they hired him and he was successful there. Then, inevitably, someone will come back and say "see we should have hired him". To that I just say, success there does not equal success here.

I don't think he will be hired by anyone significant until all of his legal wrangling is complete with Texas Tech and his book tour is long in the rear view mirror. Just my opinion.

Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:49 pm

MageeRebel425 wrote:
cajunrebel wrote:Just saw an updated list and Rich Rodriguez has been added and Charlie Strong has been taken off.

Whose list?

Rivals

JustBlues · Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:50 pm

He's making a list, checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice....

BobReb · Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:59 pm

JustBlues wrote:As more and more jump on the Leach bandwagon, let me go on the record as saying, once again and as plainly as I can, I believe that if we hire Leach as our head coach we will be in a worse position than we are now in a few years. He might have one really good season and get everyone excited, but in the end we will not win consistently in the SEC under him and the community will be more fractured than it is now.

With that said, I do not believe that we will hire Leach. I do think that there is a good chance that Arizona would consider hiring him. I would not be surprised at all if they hired him and he was successful there. Then, inevitably, someone will come back and say "see we should have hired him". To that I just say, success there does not equal success here.

^^^THIS!!! Besides, how many of those "great QB's" really made it in the NFL? Take a gander...

bbqit · Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:24 pm

Hey y'all, I'm just commenting on coaches right now. I don't have any on a list or am I bandwagoning. I just comment on what I think the upside for each is. There is plenty here to find the downside of each. That is why I am going with Santa's list. All I want for Christmas is a hire that ends happy.

AtlantaRebels · Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:21 pm

Wh are we talkin about the NFL?

RPD_R38 · Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:55 am

Hey guys, new to the board.
I keep hearing about how bad Leach's D was. My question is do you think the #'s are skewed? Meaning that beacause the offense is only on the field for and average of 2-3 min, the other teams offense has so many chances to put up #'s?
Fact is, he has won everywhere he's been including the SEC.. aka @ Kentucky??? (almost instantly), not only that,as a head coach he had the highest graduation rates in the BCS.
Sorry if this was already posted, I didn't read all the post.

MageeRebel425 · Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:15 pm

BobReb wrote:
JustBlues wrote:As more and more jump on the Leach bandwagon, let me go on the record as saying, once again and as plainly as I can, I believe that if we hire Leach as our head coach we will be in a worse position than we are now in a few years. He might have one really good season and get everyone excited, but in the end we will not win consistently in the SEC under him and the community will be more fractured than it is now.

With that said, I do not believe that we will hire Leach. I do think that there is a good chance that Arizona would consider hiring him. I would not be surprised at all if they hired him and he was successful there. Then, inevitably, someone will come back and say "see we should have hired him". To that I just say, success there does not equal success here.
^^^THIS!!! Besides, how many of those "great QB's" really made it in the NFL? Take a gander...

What do Tee Martin, Chris Weinke, Josh Heupol, Ken Dorsey, Craig Krenzel, Matt Mauck, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Chris Leak, Matt Flynn, Tim Tebow, Greg MCelroy, and Cam Newton all have in common. They are your national championship winners, in order since 1998. Which one of those guys have had moderate success in the nfl?

StrongRebel · Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:17 pm

BobReb wrote:
JustBlues wrote:As more and more jump on the Leach bandwagon, let me go on the record as saying, once again and as plainly as I can, I believe that if we hire Leach as our head coach we will be in a worse position than we are now in a few years. He might have one really good season and get everyone excited, but in the end we will not win consistently in the SEC under him and the community will be more fractured than it is now.

With that said, I do not believe that we will hire Leach. I do think that there is a good chance that Arizona would consider hiring him. I would not be surprised at all if they hired him and he was successful there. Then, inevitably, someone will come back and say "see we should have hired him". To that I just say, success there does not equal success here.
^^^THIS!!! Besides, how many of those "great QB's" really made it in the NFL? Take a gander...

The fact that none of them made it to the NFL speaks more to his coaching ability to develop sub par qb into successful qbs in his system and guidance. I think that is even more positive bc think if he did have an NFL quality Qb on his team. Do you think the qb would regress as a qb? Or would leach win a title? Alabama and LSU have proven that you don't need NFL talent at Qb to win a nc!

The knock on defense is leach's hamstring but any coach that comes in here will need a quality dc. Even smart bc he will need to focus on all the other stuff he hasn't had to focus on that Saban addresses.

RPD_R38 · Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:27 pm

MageeRebel425 wrote:
BobReb wrote:
JustBlues wrote:As more and more jump on the Leach bandwagon, let me go on the record as saying, once again and as plainly as I can, I believe that if we hire Leach as our head coach we will be in a worse position than we are now in a few years. He might have one really good season and get everyone excited, but in the end we will not win consistently in the SEC under him and the community will be more fractured than it is now.

With that said, I do not believe that we will hire Leach. I do think that there is a good chance that Arizona would consider hiring him. I would not be surprised at all if they hired him and he was successful there. Then, inevitably, someone will come back and say "see we should have hired him". To that I just say, success there does not equal success here.
^^^THIS!!! Besides, how many of those "great QB's" really made it in the NFL? Take a gander...

He has had success in the sec, along with a hiesman runner up, Tim Couch! He was the oc at Uk during those years. For the doubters on Leach, I'd suggest reading his book, or doing more research on this guy, the more I study the more I like!!!

CMB · Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:31 pm

I don't think I would have a problem with Leach as long as we had a SEC caliber defensive coordinator. My worry is that he would be a quick fix and that his system would be picked up on by other SEC defenses and would not work long term but.....maybe he would be innovative enough to change things up and keep it fresh and keep defenses guessing - not just game after game, year after year.

theghostofcolonelreb · Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:32 pm

Bought his book last night and stayed up until midnight reading it. I'll have an opinion on Leach very soon.