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[joe_t25]

Well, just throwing a name out there, a guy who has SEC experience and is a heck of a Recruiter and a former head coach, what about Ron Zook, just throwing out a name, dont go off on it.

isn't zook's experience primarly on the defensive side of the ball and on special teams?

Your right, I just checked into it, I thought he was the OC at Florida before taking the head coach position at Florida, my bad.

[ColRebForever]

everywhere he has coached. He like other successful coaches has won as HC/OC.

[Titles 'R Us]

One of the offenses I admire the most in today's football is Oregon's. Please. Not the unis. Any of them. But I believe they use a no-huddle approach, and I enjoy watching them move down the field quickly. If Freeze's offense is anything like that, it seems like that would give rival DC's something to think about. Any comments?

[Rebchuck18]

One of the offenses I admire the most in today's football is Oregon's. Please. Not the unis. Any of them. But I believe they use a no-huddle approach, and I enjoy watching them move down the field quickly. If Freeze's offense is anything like that, it seems like that would give rival DC's something to think about. Any comments?

It might work if it has a throw first, run second quarterback (preferably a little taller than 6'). Oregon's offense really IMO did not become a well rounded offense with even a chance against SEC teams until Masoli left and Thomas took over at QB..then the threat of the pass became real and that made their running game even more effective and made Thomas's running ability more of a threat because they had to respect the fact that he might actually stay in the pocket and pass the ball down the field. The stats bear that out with Thomas their TD passes doubled and their passing yards increased by more than 1,000 yards that year.

But I agree about the unis....keep that garbage away from Oxford..but if Freeze can recruit a QB with the physical attributes of a Thomas or RG III then the spread might could work in the SEC...and what do both of those QBs have in common?.....Texas.

I am telling you there are qb's everywhere out here. Folks like Sumlin at A&M know every one of them and as far as I know we have no one on staff with any recruiting ties out here.

[Titles 'R Us]

Wouldn't Ole Miss and other SEC schools have a better chance of recruiting Texas now that A & M is coming into the league? Kids that might never have looked our way might do so now. LSU has long had a pipeline into East Texas, so I know it can be done. And Texas has plenty to go around.

[ReservoirReb]

Heard we threw a weak offer at Frank but that could be rumor.

Hey Sean Payton and Andy Reid calls their own plays as do a lot of NFL coaches. So does Spurrier and Chip Kelly, and many others. Having an OC will be title only.

We need to hire a strength and conditioning coach first and since he is with the team the most he is the most important hire http://www.paullacoste.com/ this guy is a machine and will not settle.

Paul is M$U through and through. Surely there are other choices out there.

[JustBlues]

One of the offenses I admire the most in today's football is Oregon's. Please. Not the unis. Any of them. But I believe they use a no-huddle approach, and I enjoy watching them move down the field quickly. If Freeze's offense is anything like that, it seems like that would give rival DC's something to think about. Any comments?

in theory it's good and it works most places. However, the way teams win in the SEC is by keeping the opponent's defense on the field until they wear out. The hurry up offense can hurt with that. Not only does the hurry up offense obviously increase the pace while you have the ball and thus put your defense on the field more that way, you are also more likely to turn the ball over more with the hurry up. The best thing you can do in the SEC is to mix it up and keep people guessing. The hurry up can be part of that but if you're going to use the hurry up exclusively in the SEC, you'd better have exceptional athletes who can keep getting those first downs or the only thing you'll be doing is hurrying your defense onto the field and you'd also better have some very quick thinkers who can avoid turning the ball over. Auburn was fortunate last year to have just the right mix of athletes to make it work but everyone else who has tried it has not had such luck. We'd definitely better step up the recruiting if we want the hurry up offensive strategy to work.

[StrongRebel]

Heard we threw a weak offer at Frank but that could be rumor.

Hey Sean Payton and Andy Reid calls their own plays as do a lot of NFL coaches. So does Spurrier and Chip Kelly, and many others. Having an OC will be title only.

We need to hire a strength and conditioning coach first and since he is with the team the most he is the most important hire http://www.paullacoste.com/ this guy is a machine and will not settle.

Paul is M$U through and through. Surely there are other choices out there.

This is weak answer. He the best trainer to college and pro athletes in the state and maybe in the deep south. He would be worth his weight in gold and I would at least talk to him

[spudhog]

I agree with you to a point. My big issue is..... come game day give me one guy calling the plays, be it head coach or OC with input from other offensive assistants but for the love of first downs, stay out of the way during a drive. I can't help but think that a good bit of those delay of games and premature timeouts were HDN arguing with the playcaller(s) and trying to get his way or in the way during a drive. Somebody has to be the final word and it has to be done efficiently.

Keep in mind, HDN is the trailblazer in the "3 or more folks calling plays" method. I don't think we have to worry about that being repeated like the Wildcat or etc. ha

Petrino calls his own plays and it seems to work out well. I used to not like the HC calling plays until I saw him up close. It all depends on how you handle it. Richt, Gundy and Spurrier have relinquished those duties over the years. IMO, they were failing to maintain control over the entire ship.

Also, coordinators get figured out pretty quickly in the SEC (know Gundy isn't in the SEC). Good coordinators keep it fresh, keep evolving and obviously cater to their personnel. Most coordinators enjoy a good 1st year and then their patterns begin surfacing.

If a guy can juggle it all, then it should work. Obviously, HDN tainted mine/OM's view on coaches calling plays due to his methods. But, it can work.

I will say this though, I am becoming more and more convinced that Assistant coaches are at times just as important as HC's. You look at Florida and what happened when Strong/Mullen left. So, OM will definitely need to find a good/stong candidate for this role regardless of who is calling plays.

[Rebchuck18]

With all due respect to Coach Freeze...I doubt many SEC assistants are going to come coach for a HC with one year's experience in the Sunbelt. We have opted to go the up and comer, diamond in the rough, route and that will likely be the kind of assistants we get as well. So I would probably expect assistants, coordinators to come from places like Middle Tennessee State or Western Kentucky type of schools.

I could be wrong, but I personally don't expect to see any current SEC assistants, or BCS conference assistants, making their way to Oxford.

That's not necessarily a bad thing...except maybe from a recruiting standpoint.

[Titles 'R Us]

The good news would be if Freeze and his staff consistently win at Ole Miss. Then they become SEC/BCS coordinators and coaches. And I was thinking: many successful HC's start somewhere besides BCS and work their way up.

[OMNOB 1A]

With all due respect to Coach Freeze...I doubt many SEC assistants are going to come coach for a HC with one year's experience in the Sunbelt. We have opted to go the up and comer, diamond in the rough, route and that will likely be the kind of assistants we get as well. So I would probably expect assistants, coordinators to come from places like Middle Tennessee State or Western Kentucky type of schools.

I could be wrong, but I personally don't expect to see any current SEC assistants, or BCS conference assistants, making their way to Oxford.

That's not necessarily a bad thing...except maybe from a recruiting standpoint.

You're right. It is going to be a pretty hard sell for Coach Freeze to recruit to Ole Miss a viable support staff.

You are also right in that the administration has gone the route of the "up and comer", "diamond in the rough", and where that may pay HUGE dividends, the problem is that in today's World, time is of the essence and namely in the SEC where the pressure to win and win now is, well, prevalent.

Which brings us to a pretty large aspect of coaching, that being recruiting.

I am on board with Freeze, I think that his heart is in the right place and he wants to be a Rebel through and through. I believe that if he achieves a high level of success he will still elect to stay in Oxford. But all of that becomes a moot point if he and staff can't legitimately recruit SEC talent.

My hopes rest on Archie helping this along and that someone, anyone with a reputable name amongst SEC circles is willing to join forces with Freeze and bring the program up to the point that it deserves to be.

That said, anyone know what's up with Frank Wilson?