Auburn game

[rebeljim]

I'm beginning to believe that Jim may be a liberal democrat. If a person doesn't agree with what he says they are nellies or pitiful or not very smart or not fans of OM or comical or just plain wrong. What I'd like to know is what makes you think you are such a expert and know more than everybody else. Everybody knows that OM is better than they have been but right now nobody knows how good they are. What they have proven in the past week is that they can squeek by a few teams hovering around .500. I've been a fan of OM basketball since before Weltlich was coach. I guess you can just call me a skeptic. Until I see them beat some good teams I'm going to contuinue to think they are a little above average at best. The problem with that is that the only good teams on the schedule are Florida and a rematch with Missouri until they get to the tournament. You can say that makes me a bad fan but in my mind it just makes me a realist. I don't know who is responsible for the schedule or what the reason is we have played a bunch of powder puff schools but if OM really wants to put the program on another level they have to play better competition. I can understand playing a few small schools early in the season but to know where you stand you have to play teams that may actually make the NCAA tournament.

I hate liberals, so try again. The only thing I've been saying is quit bad mouthing Ole Miss. U are the one that's down on everything Ole Miss. Have u even made a pro Ole Miss post?

[RebnPhilly]

HOTTY TODDY to the true fans.

Just because we don't care for Henderson antics doesn't make us not "true fans". Just because I have to hold my nose when watching this immature, childish little boy play basketball for Ole Miss doesn't mean I don't love Ole Miss and root 110% for them. You know what, regarding your quoted statement, you can kiss my ass!!

[rebeljim]

HOTTY TODDY to the true fans.

Just because we don't care for Henderson antics doesn't make us not "true fans". Just because I have to hold my nose when watching this immature, childish little boy play basketball for Ole Miss doesn't mean I don't love Ole Miss and root 110% for them. You know what, regarding your quoted statement, you can kiss my ass!!

U can kiss mine also. Wasn't even talking to u. But if u so incline to join in, fine. It wasn't just Henderson, some on here hate AK, so anything that has to do with Rebel BB they hate. Some have been bashing the BB program since a month before the season even started. That has nothing to do with Henderson. What it has to do with is their hatred for everything AK. They've bash the program after EVERY game, all 19 them. Nobody knew about Henderson to complain about him. They just complained about the BB program. Anybody that constantly bad mouths Ole Miss I dont' consider true fans. If u or anybody else doesn't like it tuff.

[rebeljim]

I'm beginning to believe that Jim may be a liberal democrat. If a person doesn't agree with what he says they are nellies or pitiful or not very smart or not fans of OM or comical or just plain wrong. What I'd like to know is what makes you think you are such a expert and know more than everybody else. Everybody knows that OM is better than they have been but right now nobody knows how good they are. What they have proven in the past week is that they can squeek by a few teams hovering around .500. I've been a fan of OM basketball since before Weltlich was coach. I guess you can just call me a skeptic. Until I see them beat some good teams I'm going to contuinue to think they are a little above average at best. The problem with that is that the only good teams on the schedule are Florida and a rematch with Missouri until they get to the tournament. You can say that makes me a bad fan but in my mind it just makes me a realist. I don't know who is responsible for the schedule or what the reason is we have played a bunch of powder puff schools but if OM really wants to put the program on another level they have to play better competition. I can understand playing a few small schools early in the season but to know where you stand you have to play teams that may actually make the NCAA tournament.

I hate liberals, so try again. The only thing I've been saying is quit bad mouthing Ole Miss. U are the one that's down on everything Ole Miss. Have u even made a pro Ole Miss post?quote]

[cajunrebel]

Everybody take it down a notch. Y'all bicker like my 8 and 5 year old.

If the worst thing everybody has to argue about is the level of Ole Miss fandom, then life is good. Any more of this and I will just start locking the threads.

Lighten up people!!! We are riding a great wave towards signing day so enjoy it and everybody go pet a puppy.

[RebnPhilly]

To fellow Rebel Faithful readers and especially to rebeljim, I sincerely apologize for my earlier profanity directed at you. It was uncalled for. Although your statements were not directed at my, I took them as such because I am not a fan of the antics of Henderson. It just got over on me when my loyalty to Ole Miss was questioned.

[rebeljim]

To fellow Rebel Faithful readers and especially to rebeljim, I sincerely apologize for my earlier profanity directed at you. It was uncalled for. Although your statements were not directed at my, I took them as such because I am not a fan of the antics of Henderson. It just got over on me when my loyalty to Ole Miss was questioned.

RebnPhilly, it ain't like I can't be a complete jerk sometimes, and for that I too apologize. RebnPhilly, none of this was directed to u. I admit I get a little offensive when people bash Ole Miss. I come from a family of dogs. My uncle was even roomates with good ole Larry Templeton. And I've had to fight with my family my entire life over this. I'm the ONLY Rebel in my family. So like I said, I know I can be a complete a&&garden tool!e. But I Love Ole Miss, and admit I like AK. And that's why I take such offense to 55chevy and Chuck. Eric hasn't been too bad, he's just been enjoying the ride of our BB team. Just wish 55 and Chuck would do the same. But, I need to back off a little, and hope 55 and Chuck give the team a break and try and enjoy what's been accomplished. HOTTY TODDY to the board, 55, Chuck, Eric, u and the rest of Rebel Faithful.

[bleuwolfe]

no but I wish he were..we need more liberals in the USA but I forget this is a SPORTS forum isn't it?

Judge not Lest YE be judged.

[55chevy]

I am a Ole Miss sports fan. Have been all my life. Where Jim likes AK I'm just not sold. I'm not crazy about the style of play and if it wasn't OM I wouldn't watch it. Just because we have differing opinions doesn't mean there is animosity, it just means we don't see things eye to eye. I don't have anything against MH, AK or Jim. They all may be fine people. I think the OM basketball team has far exceeded most expectations, mine included. As I've said before, right now we really don't have a clue how good this team really is. In a way they are just like the MSU football team that was 7-0. We all know how that turned out for them after climbing to around #12 in the nation. I'm not saying it is going to end the same way for the BB team but the level of competition hasn't been there because of non conference scheduling and a very weak SEC. Now about some of the things I've said about this OM basketball team. (1) MH takes too many bad shots and really needs to improve his shot selection. I really don't see how anybody could disagree with this if they are watching the games. (2) If they had better shot selection it would make them a better team. Just get in a habit of counting how many times the ball is passed on each possession after it crosses half court. (3) They have a couple of pretty good big men and need to be getting them the ball more often. Most of what Buckner and Holloway get is off offensive rebounds. They don't go to their big men and I simply don't understand why. (4) MH is a shooter and has a long way to go to become a complete player. I would imagine that some see this as a knock but in reality he has the potential and talent to be a very good player. If he chose he could make OM a lot better. Good players make those around them better. To have the ability that he has and to be averaging 1.6 assist a game speaks volumes about his mentality. I think everything I've said is true. If it make me a bad fan then I guess I am even though I'll be wanting them to win when they play again. Jim said I haven't said anything positive about OM. It is a positive that they are 17-2. After years of under achieving this team has over achieved. I also think Freeze did the best job of coaching I've ever seen. His team improved more from the start to the end than any team I've ever seen. Now,there are a couple of positive remarks.

[lewindha]

I am a Ole Miss sports fan. Have been all my life. Where Jim likes AK I'm just not sold. I'm not crazy about the style of play and if it wasn't OM I wouldn't watch it. Just because we have differing opinions doesn't mean there is animosity, it just means we don't see things eye to eye. I don't have anything against MH, AK or Jim. They all may be fine people. I think the OM basketball team has far exceeded most expectations, mine included. As I've said before, right now we really don't have a clue how good this team really is. In a way they are just like the MSU football team that was 7-0. We all know how that turned out for them after climbing to around #12 in the nation. I'm not saying it is going to end the same way for the BB team but the level of competition hasn't been there because of non conference scheduling and a very weak SEC. Now about some of the things I've said about this OM basketball team. (1) MH takes too many bad shots and really needs to improve his shot selection. I really don't see how anybody could disagree with this if they are watching the games. (2) If they had better shot selection it would make them a better team. Just get in a habit of counting how many times the ball is passed on each possession after it crosses half court. (3) They have a couple of pretty good big men and need to be getting them the ball more often. Most of what Buckner and Holloway get is off offensive rebounds. They don't go to their big men and I simply don't understand why. (4) MH is a shooter and has a long way to go to become a complete player. I would imagine that some see this as a knock but in reality he has the potential and talent to be a very good player. If he chose he could make OM a lot better. Good players make those around them better. To have the ability that he has and to be averaging 1.6 assist a game speaks volumes about his mentality. I think everything I've said is true. If it make me a bad fan then I guess I am even though I'll be wanting them to win when they play again. Jim said I haven't said anything positive about OM. It is a positive that they are 17-2. After years of under achieving this team has over achieved. I also think Freeze did the best job of coaching I've ever seen. His team improved more from the start to the end than any team I've ever seen. Now,there are a couple of positive remarks.

There is a recent interview with AK out there somewhere(recent as in since the Auburn game) where he says he is more concerned about Henderson's shot selection than his on court actions. Also, he said Henderson actions after the game were 'unfortunate'. I agree with 55chevy and Chuck. The thing is, his output won't go down b/c he's not making these wild shots(for the most part). They get Murph(at the least) and Buckner a little more involved in the offense and I think this teams becomes very dangerous, and not just in the SEC. And Henderson is the key here, IMO. Teams are keying on him, he makes the extra pass and you more than likely get the ball down low with a good look or Williams for an open 3 on the other wing. We are playing well right now, but I see a lot more potential.

[RebnPhilly]

There is a recent interview with AK out there somewhere(recent as in since the Auburn game) where he says he is more concerned about Henderson's shot selection than his on court actions. Also, he said Henderson actions after the game were 'unfortunate'. I agree with 55chevy and Chuck. The thing is, his output won't go down b/c he's not making these wild shots(for the most part). They get Murph(at the least) and Buckner a little more involved in the offense and I think this teams becomes very dangerous, and not just in the SEC. And Henderson is the key here, IMO. Teams are keying on him, he makes the extra pass and you more than likely get the ball down low with a good look or Williams for an open 3 on the other wing. We are playing well right now, but I see a lot more potential.

But what incentive could possible entice MH to change his style of play and actually involve the others more often? Ole Miss is winning basketball games and he is receiving tons of attention albeit for both the right and wrong reasons so he will continue his braggadocious style of play. I agree we could be a much better team if MH would merely double is average assist per game. I don't see any change forthcoming but what the heck, if it ain't "currently" broke don't fix it.

EDIT: Hotty Toddy Rebels and Kick Some Blue Grass Butt !!

[lewindha]

There is a recent interview with AK out there somewhere(recent as in since the Auburn game) where he says he is more concerned about Henderson's shot selection than his on court actions. Also, he said Henderson actions after the game were 'unfortunate'. I agree with 55chevy and Chuck. The thing is, his output won't go down b/c he's not making these wild shots(for the most part). They get Murph(at the least) and Buckner a little more involved in the offense and I think this teams becomes very dangerous, and not just in the SEC. And Henderson is the key here, IMO. Teams are keying on him, he makes the extra pass and you more than likely get the ball down low with a good look or Williams for an open 3 on the other wing. We are playing well right now, but I see a lot more potential.

But what incentive could possible entice MH to change his style of play and actually involve the others more often? Ole Miss is winning basketball games and he is receiving tons of attention albeit for both the right and wrong reasons so he will continue his braggadocious style of play. I agree we could be a much better team if MH would merely double is average assist per game. I don't see any change forthcoming but what the heck, if it ain't "currently" broke don't fix it.

EDIT: Hotty Toddy Rebels and Kick Some Blue Grass Butt !!

IMO, if he's as much about team and winning as the other players and coaches say he is, then he'll listen. It's not something that will happen overnight, he'll have to condition himself. When I was a sophomore in high school, no shot was a bad shot to me. But I learned. I wasn't as good a shooter as Henderson, but it can be done.

[55chevy]

Never underestimate the power of a little "pine time". That's what my dad called it when you got to sit over on the bench with him. When a players action cost him playing time things take a different perspective.