Dan Mullen's play calling

[tanichols]

I watched the game with my brother who was watching from MSU fan's perspective. He seemed very impressed with the playcalling from Mullen. I just didn't say anything to discourage him, but don't you guys think Tebow just carried the team. A couple of times there was some bad playcalling. Also, there is no way that offense works like that without Tebow and all those athletes.

[rebeloke]

I watched the game with my brother who was watching from MSU fan's perspective. He seemed very impressed with the playcalling from Mullen. I just didn't say anything to discourage him, but don't you guys think Tebow just carried the team. A couple of times there was some bad playcalling. Also, there is no way that offense works like that without Tebow and all those athletes.

Mullen is not going be able to change the culture of MSU. The culture there is just a losing culture.

[rebelliousb]

I watched the game with my brother who was watching from MSU fan's perspective. He seemed very impressed with the playcalling from Mullen. I just didn't say anything to discourage him, but don't you guys think Tebow just carried the team. A couple of times there was some bad playcalling. Also, there is no way that offense works like that without Tebow and all those athletes.

Agree. The offense he ran requires about 3 top 5 recruiting classes and a first or second round dual threat QB. He will definitely have to tweak it so that a Graham Harrel (5-6 rounder) can run it with some decent receivers and an average line....and even then he'll face SEC defenses, unlike TT. Spurrier gave teams fits at Fl (great athletes), but only won 1 NC. Look what he's done at SC (not bad...but nowhere near the same results).

[tanichols]

One more thing. I heard Meyer's press conference. Did you guys know there was a guy who calls plays in the red zone and a guy who calls 3rd down plays?

[USCrebel]

One more thing. I heard Meyer's press conference. Did you guys know there was a guy who calls plays in the red zone and a guy who calls 3rd down plays?

That's not completely unusual. Defenses are often run the same way.

[mpzreb17]

I believe in small government.

[CoastRebel48]

I am not trying to be contentious, but the last time I checked Utah hasn't ever had a top 5 recruiting class and they are running the same offense. I don't expect Mullen to turn State into a contender, but that offense can and is employed with lesser talent and has been successful against top tier programs.

Also, my take on the play calling is that you call plays for your best players and Tebow and Harvin are without question the best players on the Florida team. It makes sense that they get the lion share of the carries. Harvin was dinged up and so Tebow carried the load. I have never been a fan of the Tebow lead, but Mullen or whoever look like a genius when they started running the option. It slowed the OU attack down forced them to play discipline defense and the Sooners had to all but shelve there blitz package in the second half. That definitely made it easier for Florida to throw the ball.

I am no Florida fan and I don't expect Mullen to have anymore than moderate success at State which is all that can be expected unless he decides to cheat, but I thought I should give credit where credit is due.

[rebelliousb]

I am not trying to be contentious, but the last time I checked Utah hasn't ever had a top 5 recruiting class and they are running the same offense. I don't expect Mullen to turn State into a contender, but that offense can and is employed with lesser talent and has been successful against top tier programs.

Also, my take on the play calling is that you call plays for your best players and Tebow and Harvin are without question the best players on the Florida team. It makes sense that they get the lion share of the carries. Harvin was dinged up and so Tebow carried the load. I have never been a fan of the Tebow lead, but Mullen or whoever look like a genius when they started running the option. It slowed the OU attack down forced them to play discipline defense and the Sooners had to all but shelve there blitz package in the second half. That definitely made it easier for Florida to throw the ball.

I am no Florida fan and I don't expect Mullen to have anymore than moderate success at State which is all that can be expected unless he decides to cheat, but I thought I should give credit where credit is due.

So without Tebow and Harvin (top 5 recruits ) who wins?
Utah is good and could possibly have won the SEC west (depending on who they had from the East)...but not the SEC and not unblemished. And their athletes ARE superior to MSU....and to most in their conference.

[JoeRebel]

talk about play calling. The Oklahoma play calling was horrendous. when u have a foot to go and "the best offensive line" in college football, YOU DON'T TAKE THE BALL OFF THE LINE. I'm not saying we woulf have lost, but Tebow would have gotten the first against us had he been under center. (Just my opioin, Im glad it didn't happen.)

[mpzreb17]

I disagree. We gave Tebow merely one first down on third down conversions.

[CoastRebel48]

I am not trying to be contentious, but the last time I checked Utah hasn't ever had a top 5 recruiting class and they are running the same offense. I don't expect Mullen to turn State into a contender, but that offense can and is employed with lesser talent and has been successful against top tier programs.

Also, my take on the play calling is that you call plays for your best players and Tebow and Harvin are without question the best players on the Florida team. It makes sense that they get the lion share of the carries. Harvin was dinged up and so Tebow carried the load. I have never been a fan of the Tebow lead, but Mullen or whoever look like a genius when they started running the option. It slowed the OU attack down forced them to play discipline defense and the Sooners had to all but shelve there blitz package in the second half. That definitely made it easier for Florida to throw the ball.

I am no Florida fan and I don't expect Mullen to have anymore than moderate success at State which is all that can be expected unless he decides to cheat, but I thought I should give credit where credit is due.

So without Tebow and Harvin (top 5 recruits ) who wins?
Utah is good and could possibly have won the SEC west (depending on who they had from the East)...but not the SEC and not unblemished. And their athletes ARE superior to MSU....and to most in their conference.

You miss my point. I am saying that the offense doesn't need 5 star recruits to be effective. I agree that Tebow and Harvin are the reason FL won, but I still don't agree that you have to have either to run that offense effectively.

I believe when I said that Mullen will have moderate success at State unless he decides to cheat implies that I agree that Utah has better talent.

[CoastRebel48]

talk about play calling. The Oklahoma play calling was horrendous. when u have a foot to go and "the best offensive line" in college football, YOU DON'T TAKE THE BALL OFF THE LINE. I'm not saying we woulf have lost, but Tebow would have gotten the first against us had he been under center. (Just my opioin, Im glad it didn't happen.)

I definitely agree with this. The 3rd down and 4th down calls were both terrible.

[rebelliousb]

I am not trying to be contentious, but the last time I checked Utah hasn't ever had a top 5 recruiting class and they are running the same offense. I don't expect Mullen to turn State into a contender, but that offense can and is employed with lesser talent and has been successful against top tier programs.

Also, my take on the play calling is that you call plays for your best players and Tebow and Harvin are without question the best players on the Florida team. It makes sense that they get the lion share of the carries. Harvin was dinged up and so Tebow carried the load. I have never been a fan of the Tebow lead, but Mullen or whoever look like a genius when they started running the option. It slowed the OU attack down forced them to play discipline defense and the Sooners had to all but shelve there blitz package in the second half. That definitely made it easier for Florida to throw the ball.

I am no Florida fan and I don't expect Mullen to have anymore than moderate success at State which is all that can be expected unless he decides to cheat, but I thought I should give credit where credit is due.

So without Tebow and Harvin (top 5 recruits ) who wins?
Utah is good and could possibly have won the SEC west (depending on who they had from the East)...but not the SEC and not unblemished. And their athletes ARE superior to MSU....and to most in their conference.

You miss my point. I am saying that the offense doesn't need 5 star recruits to be effective. I agree that Tebow and Harvin are the reason FL won, but I still don't agree that you have to have either to run that offense effectively.

I believe when I said that Mullen will have moderate success at State unless he decides to cheat implies that I agree that Utah has better talent.

Not trying to argue...just saying that Florida's offense without 4 and 5 star athletes is like ...taking a mediocre Big 12 offensive scheme (one without Harrell and Crabs) and put them in the SEC...week in and week out.

[BeeeDeee]

I watched the game with my brother who was watching from MSU fan's perspective. He seemed very impressed with the playcalling from Mullen. I just didn't say anything to discourage him, but don't you guys think Tebow just carried the team. A couple of times there was some bad playcalling. Also, there is no way that offense works like that without Tebow and all those athletes.

I was (and have been all season) very impressed with Tebow, but I really think Harvin was the game changer. Those two or three BIG runs really set the tempo for UF's offense. I, for one, am glad that he's going to the NFL. I don't wanna have to play against him in Atlanta next year

[OMNOB]

I watched the game with my brother who was watching from MSU fan's perspective. He seemed very impressed with the playcalling from Mullen. I just didn't say anything to discourage him, but don't you guys think Tebow just carried the team. A couple of times there was some bad playcalling. Also, there is no way that offense works like that without Tebow and all those athletes.

I was (and have been all season) very impressed with Tebow, but I really think Harvin was the game changer. Those two or three BIG runs really set the tempo for UF's offense. I, for one, am glad that he's going to the NFL. I don't wanna have to play against him in Atlanta next year

I agree with you on Harvin, the guy can flat play, I believe he is McCluster x 2 (which is pretty effin' impressive)

And as for your Atlanta reference, I already have my tix and I like very much your optimistic approach...

I hope that we sign TCU as that last OOC opponet and possibly take things at the BCS.