next head coach predictions and wishes

metalinc · Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:16 am

He is 26-14 and they have been to bowls but they have lost each one with losses to LSU Iowa and Airforce. They were 2009 ACC champions..which was stripped by NCAA violations..16-8 in conference..I think he is a good steady winner in conf out of conference so so. I dunno...take a lot of convincing.

rebel556677 · Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:39 am

This year Johnson at Georgia Tech has a quarterback who can run the triple option and is an accurate passer with a strong arm which makes the entire playbook viable.

MageeRebel425 · Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:13 pm

metalinc wrote:He is 26-14 and they have been to bowls but they have lost each one with losses to LSU Iowa and Airforce. They were 2009 ACC champions..which was stripped by NCAA violations..16-8 in conference..I think he is a good steady winner in conf out of conference so so. I dunno...take a lot of convincing.

The problem with running the triple option is that its not a very sexy brand of football. Its hard for an average fan to get pumped about a triple option offense. I like Paul Johnson and think he is a good football coach but if we are going with gimmicky offenses I would rather have the mad scientist, Leach. Imagine that offense with athletic WRs and backs.. At least I would be confident any given week that my coach would be smarter than the other guy. I know Nutt beat Leach heads up but really our D-line and talent beat Leach. Would want a great D coordinator to come with him though, and he would have to run the ball more a little more in the SEC...

JustBlues · Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:16 pm

MageeRebel425 wrote:The problem with running the triple option is that its not a very sexy brand of football. Its hard for an average fan to get pumped about a triple option offense...

win a championship and it won't matter how "sexy" your offense is-- fans will get excited. In the end, "sexy" is whatever wins football games.

MageeRebel425 · Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:39 pm

JustBlues wrote:
MageeRebel425 wrote:The problem with running the triple option is that its not a very sexy brand of football. Its hard for an average fan to get pumped about a triple option offense...
win a championship and it won't matter how "sexy" your offense is-- fans will get excited. In the end, "sexy" is whatever wins football games.

I can agree with that from the fan's perspective, but elite 17 and 18 year olds are not going to jump stumps to play for a school that runs a triple option. I am not convinced it would work in the SEC. The one strength of our team on paper for the future is at wr. If we hired Paul Johnson most of those guys would decide to leave the same day.

Rebchuck18 · Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:43 pm

VARebelDad wrote:I would like to see Ole Miss think out side the box and go after Paul Johnson. Who???? Paul Johnson (PJ) the current coach at GA Tech. He would bing the triple option with him which he has been very successful winning with at Hawaii, Navy and GA Tech.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Johns ... l_coach%29

I am a graduate of GA Southern University which has six national championship flags flying at our stadium all won with the triple option. Two of those by PJ. We left the triple option and have not been competitive until we hired one of PJ's assistants to bring back the triple option and made a charge for the championship last year and am currently ranked 1st in 1-AA.

Can the triple option win in the SEC? GA Tech is 4-2 playing SEC teams since adopting the TO including wins over Vandy, UGA, and Mississippi State twice. GA Tech is a consistent winner in the ACC with the TO. I think it is a offensive that can be successful without having the top 4 and 5 star athletes that we loose to the bigger programs in the SEC. We can spend a lot of money to get a great coach but we can not buy the best athletes who are picking the bigger programs.

I say hire Paul Johnson and give him a budget to get the best defensive coach he can find and he would create a consistent winner at Ole Miss.

He is 4-3 vs the SEC. He is 1-2 against Georgia (during 3 of GA's meltdown years), and he has two wins against a 4-8 MSU team and a 5-7 MSU team and one win against a 2-10 Vandy team. LSU spanked him in the Chick Fil A Bowl 38-3 because LSU has SEC athletes on defense. The triple option not only will not win consistently against SEC defenses, it will bore the friggin hee bee jeebies out of an already disgruntled bunch of fans.

MageeRebel425 · Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:51 pm

Rebchuck18 wrote:
VARebelDad wrote:I would like to see Ole Miss think out side the box and go after Paul Johnson. Who???? Paul Johnson (PJ) the current coach at GA Tech. He would bing the triple option with him which he has been very successful winning with at Hawaii, Navy and GA Tech.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Johns ... l_coach%29

I am a graduate of GA Southern University which has six national championship flags flying at our stadium all won with the triple option. Two of those by PJ. We left the triple option and have not been competitive until we hired one of PJ's assistants to bring back the triple option and made a charge for the championship last year and am currently ranked 1st in 1-AA.

Can the triple option win in the SEC? GA Tech is 4-2 playing SEC teams since adopting the TO including wins over Vandy, UGA, and Mississippi State twice. GA Tech is a consistent winner in the ACC with the TO. I think it is a offensive that can be successful without having the top 4 and 5 star athletes that we loose to the bigger programs in the SEC. We can spend a lot of money to get a great coach but we can not buy the best athletes who are picking the bigger programs.

I say hire Paul Johnson and give him a budget to get the best defensive coach he can find and he would create a consistent winner at Ole Miss.
He is 4-3 vs the SEC. He is 1-2 against Georgia (during 3 of GA's meltdown years), and he has two wins against a 4-8 MSU team and a 5-7 MSU team and one win against a 2-10 Vandy team. LSU spanked him in the Chick Fil A Bowl 38-3 because LSU has SEC athletes on defense. The triple option not only will not win consistently against SEC defenses, it will bore the friggin hee bee jeebies out of an already disgruntled bunch of fans.

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bigtreydaddy · Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:07 pm

In closing, bring in Mike Leach aaarrrggghhh

carl winslow · Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:21 pm

I had a weird Rich Rodriguez prediction a couple of years ago. Not saying I endorse him, but curious if it comes true.

metalinc · Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:55 pm

MageeRebel425 wrote:
metalinc wrote:He is 26-14 and they have been to bowls but they have lost each one with losses to LSU Iowa and Airforce. They were 2009 ACC champions..which was stripped by NCAA violations..16-8 in conference..I think he is a good steady winner in conf out of conference so so. I dunno...take a lot of convincing.

The problem with running the triple option is that its not a very sexy brand of football. Its hard for an average fan to get pumped about a triple option offense. I like Paul Johnson and think he is a good football coach but if we are going with gimmicky offenses I would rather have the mad scientist, Leach. Imagine that offense with athletic WRs and backs.. At least I would be confident any given week that my coach would be smarter than the other guy. I know Nutt beat Leach heads up but really our D-line and talent beat Leach. Would want a great D coordinator to come with him though, and he would have to run the ball more a little more in the SEC...

I think you are dead on...with the athletes we have the athletes we recruit in state...we can run the spread...and it needs to be Mouse Davis style fun n gun...with a nice ole miss running back to offset the tempo...that we always seem to get...

proud2breb · Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:59 pm

Some of these are realistic:

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/85 ... candidates

proud2breb · Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:00 pm

metalinc wrote:
MageeRebel425 wrote:
metalinc wrote:He is 26-14 and they have been to bowls but they have lost each one with losses to LSU Iowa and Airforce. They were 2009 ACC champions..which was stripped by NCAA violations..16-8 in conference..I think he is a good steady winner in conf out of conference so so. I dunno...take a lot of convincing.

The problem with running the triple option is that its not a very sexy brand of football. Its hard for an average fan to get pumped about a triple option offense. I like Paul Johnson and think he is a good football coach but if we are going with gimmicky offenses I would rather have the mad scientist, Leach. Imagine that offense with athletic WRs and backs.. At least I would be confident any given week that my coach would be smarter than the other guy. I know Nutt beat Leach heads up but really our D-line and talent beat Leach. Would want a great D coordinator to come with him though, and he would have to run the ball more a little more in the SEC...
I think you are dead on...with the athletes we have the athletes we recruit in state...we can run the spread...and it needs to be Mouse Davis style fun n gun...with a nice ole miss running back to offset the tempo...that we always seem to get...

On the subject of our "athletes":

http://mobile.gulflive.com/site?webredi ... chang.html

Rebchuck18 · Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:52 am

proud2breb wrote:Some of these are realistic:

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/85 ... candidates

I wanted Holtz when we got rid of Fred Flinstone. Still would like to get him....my second choice is still Kent Austin.

kjreb · Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:08 am

whoa did you really say Mike Leach? absolutely not. iv would be all over ESPN and not in a good way. we are already the laughing stock of the sec this year don't make it any worse. mike is a brilliant coach but do you really want a coach with baggage? i want an up and coming hot shot coordinator. someone like Kirby smart. he fields the best defense in the nation every year. one thing we've been missing is a defense. even when Snead threw 20 picks we went 9 and 4 all because of defense. no gimmicky offense please. when was the last Time the wild rebel worked? exactly. defensive minded head coach and pro style oc is what will get us to atlanta imho

wpdrebel · Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:37 am

I would take kirby smart or skip holtz. We definately dont need leech, way too many problems with the wanna be pirate. I wouldnt mind kent austin either. But like many have said we have to have a new ad. I would crap a gold brick if Archie would take that job 8O .