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Titles 'R Us wrote:Your real first and last name are your sig. Remove it if you don't want people to know who you are. Anyone can come on the board and see it. I'll delete this post if you do so.

Man, you need to lighten up and watch a funny movie or something. You think I don't know my name is my sig? It was a joke.
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Heh Heh Heh, I like this thread. It makes me laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But regardless of someone's sig, why would you continue to use someones real name like that? Maybe it's just a jab in his side with every post. I don't know "E", but using his first name when his login is different is wrong. AND it's very annoying.
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batman50 wrote:Heh Heh Heh, I like this thread. It makes me laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But regardless of someone's sig, why would you continue to use someones real name like that? Maybe it's just a jab in his side with every post. I don't know "E", but using his first name when his login is different is wrong. AND it's very annoying.
I really don't care. I was just trying to lighten the mood. I made my real name my sig b/c when I first joined this board, I'm pretty sure my firsts posts were about firing Barnes, and I didn't want to be some troll just joining to stir up $#!!. So, I put my name there.
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I have a couple of things. First, in these discussions, can we stop comparing the baseball program and Bianco to the basketball program and Kennedy. That is comparing apples and oranges when it comes to NCAA sports. And, at Ole Miss, Bianco has a HECK OF A LOT MORE to work with than Kennedy. I mean, have you seen the Tad Pad?!?! Why not play in a toilet? And have you seen OU Stadium?!?! It is like a cathedral for college baseball! So, it's basically like saying Bianco and Kennedy are going to race cars and Bianco gets a Ferrari and Kennedy gets a Ford Escort. So, I would expect Bianco to win easily, but he's barely winning.

Next, there are only a handful of coaches in the nation who would turn down the Ole Miss job. Manieri, Tanner, Garrido, and Van Horn are about the only ones who probably would say no if Bjork came calling. I am betting someone like O'Sullivan or Corbin would LOVE to come to Ole Miss. Just my opinion.
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Heath wrote:I have a couple of things. First, in these discussions, can we stop comparing the baseball program and Bianco to the basketball program and Kennedy. That is comparing apples and oranges when it comes to NCAA sports. And, at Ole Miss, Bianco has a HECK OF A LOT MORE to work with than Kennedy. I mean, have you seen the Tad Pad?!?! Why not play in a toilet? And have you seen OU Stadium?!?! It is like a cathedral for college baseball! So, it's basically like saying Bianco and Kennedy are going to race cars and Bianco gets a Ferrari and Kennedy gets a Ford Escort. So, I would expect Bianco to win easily, but he's barely winning.

Next, there are only a handful of coaches in the nation who would turn down the Ole Miss job. Manieri, Tanner, Garrido, and Van Horn are about the only ones who probably would say no if Bjork came calling. I am betting someone like O'Sullivan or Corbin would LOVE to come to Ole Miss. Just my opinion.
My point is, we have OU Stadium b/c of the success we've had under Bianco. I know the baseball facilities probably weren't as bad before the expansion as the Tad Pad. But we've had two other coaches make the tourney with the same facilities. I DON'T CARE if it was easier back then. It is what it is and you've got to do what it takes to get in. If that means winning 25 games instead of 20, then that's what you've got to do. Don't complain b/c some else had it easier. DO YOUR JOB! Kennedy isn't.

Some of you are going to say Bianco isn't doing his job. Maybe he's not. But under his watch, we've seen an explosion in fan interest, new stadium expansion, and 10 out of 12 postseasons. Under Kennedy, the fan interest is almost nil. IMO, that's not just a product of not making the tourney. It's also about the style he plays and the type of PEOPLE he's bringing in.

I hope you're right about the coaches who would take the job. I will tell you this, if they fire Bianco this year or next and we don't get someone who's been to Omaha(this decade), you will NEVER hear the end of it.
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Heath wrote:I am betting someone like O'Sullivan or Corbin would LOVE to come to Ole Miss. Just my opinion.
If this group were Florida fans, we'd be screaming "FIRE O'SULLIVAN". The guy returned practically every player from last year's CWS finals team, including the best player in the nation. He has probably the best pitching staff in the nation and a beastly lineup...yet can't even win his own division. He has lost home SRs in the past and almost lost to an average 3 seed MSU team at home last year. 2 years earlier he lost to an average USM team at home in the SRs.

But I may be ok with Corbin.
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lewindha wrote:
Heath wrote:I have a couple of things. First, in these discussions, can we stop comparing the baseball program and Bianco to the basketball program and Kennedy. That is comparing apples and oranges when it comes to NCAA sports. And, at Ole Miss, Bianco has a HECK OF A LOT MORE to work with than Kennedy. I mean, have you seen the Tad Pad?!?! Why not play in a toilet? And have you seen OU Stadium?!?! It is like a cathedral for college baseball! So, it's basically like saying Bianco and Kennedy are going to race cars and Bianco gets a Ferrari and Kennedy gets a Ford Escort. So, I would expect Bianco to win easily, but he's barely winning.

Next, there are only a handful of coaches in the nation who would turn down the Ole Miss job. Manieri, Tanner, Garrido, and Van Horn are about the only ones who probably would say no if Bjork came calling. I am betting someone like O'Sullivan or Corbin would LOVE to come to Ole Miss. Just my opinion.
My point is, we have OU Stadium b/c of the success we've had under Bianco. I know the baseball facilities probably weren't as bad before the expansion as the Tad Pad. But we've had two other coaches make the tourney with the same facilities. I DON'T CARE if it was easier back then. It is what it is and you've got to do what it takes to get in. If that means winning 25 games instead of 20, then that's what you've got to do. Don't complain b/c some else had it easier. DO YOUR JOB! Kennedy isn't.

Some of you are going to say Bianco isn't doing his job. Maybe he's not. But under his watch, we've seen an explosion in fan interest, new stadium expansion, and 10 out of 12 postseasons. Under Kennedy, the fan interest is almost nil. IMO, that's not just a product of not making the tourney. It's also about the style he plays and the type of PEOPLE he's bringing in.

I hope you're right about the coaches who would take the job. I will tell you this, if they fire Bianco this year or next and we don't get someone who's been to Omaha(this decade), you will NEVER hear the end of it.
Again, I'll speak slowly so MAYBE u can understand. U keep metioned AK not making it, but the 2 previous coaches did. 2 years ago, we tied state for the western divison title. We still didn't go dancing. Under our 2 previous coaches, that would've gotten us in. It's harder now than it was then to make it. Do u just not understand english, or are u so dead set on trying to sound right, u don't listen to logic. AK doesn't begin to have the advantages Bianco has. And u keep talking about where Bianco has taken us. How do u know it was him and not Dan? Facts seem to point out it was Dan, and not Mike. Yet u refuse to even consider anything other than your own objective. Most any coach would love to come here with what we have to offer, yet u don't belive so, unreal. There's not but a few that have better facilities in baseball than we do. There's not but a few the have worst facilities in basketball than we do. Is it that hard for u to understand this? And u keep mentioning Freeze. I think so far he's done a very good job. Of course, the real test comes on the field. And our new AD also seems to be doing good so far. But u keep up your agenda.
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I'll post it TWICE so maybe you understand, I don't know to explain something slowly on a message board:
But we've had two other coaches make the tourney with the same facilities. I DON'T CARE if it was easier back then. It is what it is and you've got to do what it takes to get in. If that means winning 25 games instead of 20, then that's what you've got to do. Don't complain b/c some else had it easier. DO YOUR JOB! Kennedy isn't.
And I'll say it here again. I DON'T CARE if it's harder now. I'm a web developer. A LOT of people know how to develop web sites/apps these days. No one tells me, look there's a lot of developers out there. That makes it harder to get a good job, but you take your time with that very important project we've assigned to you. The job is what it is. He's paid to get to the tournament, he's not doing it. If he's not paid to get to the tournament, then why are we paying him, we can pay someone WAY less to not make the tournament.

I brought Freeze up b/c I was trying to draw comparisons to all three sports. And, YES, you can draw comparisons. I have been quite pleased with what Freeze has done. Tell me this, when Nutt was fired, before ANY names were even mentioned for the job, was Freeze at the top of your list? If so, you're crazy. I know I brought it back in an attempt to make my point here, but I have been pretty supportive of Freeze here lately, something you refuse to acknowledge.

Again you want to give the assistant all the glory. It's always been my opinion that the buck stops and starts with the HC. If you're gonna dog him now for what a hitting assistant can't seem to do(get the timely hit), then you have to give him credit for what another assistant was able to do. I'm not saying St. Dan isn't a great coach, b/c he is.

It's not that I don't believe another coach wants to come here. I just think if we're gonna replace Bianco, it should be with a guy who's gone to Omaha recently(not 15 years ago). And maybe there's plenty out there that would. You better be sure, though.

And this is all your agenda. You're the one who wants Bianco fired. My agenda is Kennedy, I guess.

And I don't know that anyone is wrong here. These are mostly opinions. Opinions that we are free to share here. I think you have some valid points regarding Bianco, and I'm not happy with the way things have been. IMO, I feel like he deserves the chance to right this ship before we send him packing. I think all your points on Kennedy are wrong, though. :P
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olemissreb10 wrote:
Heath wrote:I am betting someone like O'Sullivan or Corbin would LOVE to come to Ole Miss. Just my opinion.
If this group were Florida fans, we'd be screaming "FIRE O'SULLIVAN". The guy returned practically every player from last year's CWS finals team, including the best player in the nation. He has probably the best pitching staff in the nation and a beastly lineup...yet can't even win his own division. He has lost home SRs in the past and almost lost to an average 3 seed MSU team at home last year. 2 years earlier he lost to an average USM team at home in the SRs.

But I may be ok with Corbin.

O'Sullivan went to Omaha in 2010 and 2011 so I'm not sure he makes your point...A team in his division won the CWS both years which runs from your point even further... If Mike carried us to Omaha he would buy himself 3 years easy....
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MageeRebel425 wrote: O'Sullivan went to Omaha in 2010 and 2011 so I'm not sure he makes your point...A team in his division won the CWS both years which runs from your point even further... If Mike carried us to Omaha he would buy himself 3 years easy....
I've seen enough of him to know that he wouldn't do any better here than Bianco. Terry Rooney is the best coach in Florida
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Alright you primates, start throwing your mud, But I agree with lewinda. Bianco DID lose a couple of games because of pitching decisions. Mosy of you posted that Godwin was going to be THE savior if/when we could get him, That hasn't happened. Our hitting has been the problem,timely hits. Bianco is a really good coach, maybe not great but still a good coach. Even if we brought N Saban here for football doesn't guarantee a winning record much less a NC. I agree I want to win every game also but a coaching change sometimes is not the answer. N. Saban didn't seem to be the answer down in Miami, admittedly it was the NFL,but still football. Bianco is a good fit and hasn't lost control of the team to warrant a change.
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Titles... are you just trying to raise your post count? :lol:
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mascott wrote:Alright you primates, start throwing your mud, But I agree with lewinda. Bianco DID lose a couple of games because of pitching decisions. Mosy of you posted that Godwin was going to be THE savior if/when we could get him, That hasn't happened. Our hitting has been the problem,timely hits. Bianco is a really good coach, maybe not great but still a good coach. Even if we brought N Saban here for football doesn't guarantee a winning record much less a NC. I agree I want to win every game also but a coaching change sometimes is not the answer. N. Saban didn't seem to be the answer down in Miami, admittedly it was the NFL,but still football. Bianco is a good fit and hasn't lost control of the team to warrant a change.
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Titles... are you just trying to raise your post count? :lol:

I don't even know exactly where to go with this.. First, I think you are looking just at this season by itself.. Most of us are frustrated with the regression over the past several years.. Others have pointed it out but we are have not hosted 4 out of the past 5 years, but yet we are in the top 5 in attendance in the same time frame. (After Dan departed) 0 CWS apperances in 12 years...
As far as Saban, your right getting him does not guarantee that you will win a national championship but it d*** sure puts you in the conversation. As for him not succeeding in the NFL, totally irrelevent.. Nobody will answer the question that defends MB.. When is enough, enough? When do you let him go if he fails to reach Omaha? 20 years? 25? Is that not the goal? Maybe all of us that are aggravated should just be tickled pink to make a regional most years. Yeah thats it, lets lower our expectations and never want anything more. That's USM mentality, Liberty Bowl or bust! This is pathetic.. I'm done debating it because the people who defend him will blindly defend him in the face of facts.. The people who think he has had long enough def arent changing their minds. Either way he gets another year, but based off of what we are losing we will be similar to Stank this year... I'm sure they will continue dominance over us as well..
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I thought I had answered that. If you read any of my posts, you should know I personally won't stand for 15-20 years of not making marked improvements. We should make some noise next year or he's definitely on the hot seat. If we regress next season like we did this season, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he was let go. But you better have a Grand Slam hire ready to take his place.

Everything else in your post is basically my argument against Kennedy.
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There will always be 2 different sides of every decision. One is usually right (me) and the other side (you). :lol:
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Exactly.
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