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mascott wrote:I agree it's mostly on the D but, Nutt allowed JSU to gain momentum, and that should NEVER happen.
It is the defenses job to keep the other team from gaining momentum.
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beachbumreb wrote:
mascott wrote:I agree it's mostly on the D but, Nutt allowed JSU to gain momentum, and that should NEVER happen.
It is the defenses job to keep the other team from gaining momentum.

It is the offenses (and HC's) job to keep piling on until the other side quits. we didn't.
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We dominated in the first half. to keep "piling on" would be classless imo. There were no indicators to show that the other team had any hope at all. Until our defense let them back into the game.
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beachbumreb wrote:We dominated in the first half. to keep "piling on" would be classless imo. There were no indicators to show that the other team had any hope at all. Until our defense let them back into the game.

so you prefer the polite loser route?
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beachbumreb wrote:We dominated in the first half. to keep "piling on" would be classless imo. There were no indicators to show that the other team had any hope at all. Until our defense let them back into the game.
This all started with offseason distractions. This staff allowed things to start to distract this team and if we are going to give him props for good games, then the staff should get the blame.
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beachbumreb wrote:against a far inferior (and the outcome does not change that!)
I'm not saying you aren't a better team than Jackson State (you are), but maybe the arrogance behind a statement such as JSU is "far inferior" is the exact thing that led to them BEATING you. They obviously weren't FAR inferior. The SEC is the best conference in the country. But ya'll need to stop thinking that your in some insulated bubble thousands of miles ahead of the rest of the world....or else you'll be staring at alot more embarrasements on down the road.
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WaveProf wrote:
beachbumreb wrote:against a far inferior (and the outcome does not change that!)
I'm not saying you aren't a better team than Jackson State (you are), but maybe the arrogance behind a statement such as JSU is "far inferior" is the exact thing that led to them BEATING you. They obviously weren't FAR inferior. The SEC is the best conference in the country. But ya'll need to stop thinking that your in some insulated bubble thousands of miles ahead of the rest of the world....or else you'll be staring at alot more embarrasements on down the road.

I have to agree
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lewindha wrote:What's all this 'if Masoli plays, we gonna suck' stuff? Both qb's looked good to me. Nutt got way too conservative in the second half. He's got to shoulder some of the blame. We only threw the ball 20 times and it looked like they were doing well at throwing it.

Yes, the offense stalled in the second half, but a 21 point lead should be more than enough against any team, much less a D-II school, or FCS whatever the hell you wanna call it.

The vaunted D-Line wasn't getting any pressure in the 2nd half. The secondary might as well have stayed in bed this morning.

We had no penalties in the game. After searing this I thought, "Of course there were no penalties. Especially pass interference. Every time they threw the ball the receiver was the only person on the TV screen. How does one get so open that he is the only person on the TV screen?"
Both QB's looked good at times, and on one level, I understand why Nutt wanted to see both, but you're the freakin' coach.... It's your job to make a decision.... Now WHO is the starting QB????? I don't care if it's Mazzoli or Stanley, but make your pick and stick with it. In my opinion, both QB's looked good fresh off the bench, but when he kept switching back and forth and one QB sit for 20 or 30 minutes, they came back cold. Not to mention the predictability the 2nd half... If Mazzolli was QB we were gonna run the ball, if Stanley was in, we were passing. A High School QB could have beat that 2nd half game plan.... not to mention the "Ole ball Coach's" mentor who has seen that Nutt's has remained the same through the years.
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manningesk wrote:
beachbumreb wrote:We dominated in the first half. to keep "piling on" would be classless imo. There were no indicators to show that the other team had any hope at all. Until our defense let them back into the game.
This all started with offseason distractions. This staff allowed things to start to distract this team and if we are going to give him props for good games, then the staff should get the blame.
I agree to a point, but the "Staff" didn't sit on their a$$ and watch a Div 1AA Team run over them like they were a bunch of pee wee football players.... that was the Defense.
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rebelliousb wrote:
beachbumreb wrote:We dominated in the first half. to keep "piling on" would be classless imo. There were no indicators to show that the other team had any hope at all. Until our defense let them back into the game.

so you prefer the polite loser route?
What I am referring to is game planning the second half of a game against a 1AA school that we had a 21 point lead on at halftime ferchrissakes! We were moving the ball very effectively and the defense was solid in the first half. Based on the first half, did you see anything that indicated we needed to keep running up the score? No.To have the defense come out and allow the momentum to swing the way it did for Jax St. was unconscionable! The D completely melted down, and by the time the need to pour it on offensively was realized, too much momentum had been lost.

And we ARE a quality team! No arrogance, just truth. However, if our players or coaches does not give 110% for all four quarters, we will lose. As we did.

I am just trying to point out to all the inbred trolls who love to point fingers whenever we have a loss that it was not a "qb killer", or lack of offense that led to our loss. Rather, it was our defense deciding the game was over after the first half that allowed the upset yesterday. And while the ultimate responsibility is on the HC, he has to be able to trust his defensive staff when they say the D is ready to play.

In short, don't blame Nutt (this time) for the defense melting down! If there is a next time (i hope like h*ll not) all bets are off tho.
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Nutt has already repeatedly said that it was coaching that lost this game. First of all, i agree that we don't need to run up the score but that still doesn't take back the fact that even when it was 31-20, nutt and nix still called run up the middle and prevent defense. The whole game plan was flawed, not just the 2nd half. The most obvious thing was the lack of blitzing. We didn't blitz at all yesterday and blitzing is what has made our d great in the past. Second of all, the whole staff thought this game wouldn't need complex formations or plays so they just didn't include them in the game plan. Not once did we run the wild rebel yesterday. And another thing, Nix is not a bad coach against the spread offense! Yes he has lost games against spread but he's won them as well. Remember last year holding the spread offensive attack of oklahoma state to only 7 points!!! The bottom line is its the coaches and players fault. The players didn't play hard, powe only had 2 tackles in the whole d*** game!
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beachbumreb wrote:
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beachbumreb wrote:We dominated in the first half. to keep "piling on" would be classless imo. There were no indicators to show that the other team had any hope at all. Until our defense let them back into the game.

so you prefer the polite loser route?
What I am referring to is game planning the second half of a game against a 1AA school that we had a 21 point lead on at halftime ferchrissakes! We were moving the ball very effectively and the defense was solid in the first half. Based on the first half, did you see anything that indicated we needed to keep running up the score? No.To have the defense come out and allow the momentum to swing the way it did for Jax St. was unconscionable! The D completely melted down, and by the time the need to pour it on offensively was realized, too much momentum had been lost.

And we ARE a quality team! No arrogance, just truth. However, if our players or coaches does not give 110% for all four quarters, we will lose. As we did.

I am just trying to point out to all the inbred trolls who love to point fingers whenever we have a loss that it was not a "qb killer", or lack of offense that led to our loss. Rather, it was our defense deciding the game was over after the first half that allowed the upset yesterday. And while the ultimate responsibility is on the HC, he has to be able to trust his defensive staff when they say the D is ready to play.

In short, don't blame Nutt (this time) for the defense melting down! If there is a next time (i hope like h*ll not) all bets are off tho.

You can't go 110% AND let off the gas. that is the problem..
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ok...I'm not going to say what I posted quoting gonetooxford and deleted. I will say that gonetooxford sounds too much like "grewupinoxford". If any of you saw that.....I truly am sorry!!
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badmotorfinger wrote:ok...I'm not going to say what I posted quoting gonetooxford and deleted. I will say that gonetooxford sounds too much like "grewupinoxford". If any of you saw that.....I truly am sorry!!
Man, text me whatever you posted. It had to be epic! :D Did it involve trolls performing fellatio on themselves?
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jrebel87 wrote:Nutt has already repeatedly said that it was coaching that lost this game. First of all, i agree that we don't need to run up the score but that still doesn't take back the fact that even when it was 31-20, nutt and nix still called run up the middle and prevent defense. The whole game plan was flawed, not just the 2nd half. The most obvious thing was the lack of blitzing. We didn't blitz at all yesterday and blitzing is what has made our d great in the past. Second of all, the whole staff thought this game wouldn't need complex formations or plays so they just didn't include them in the game plan. Not once did we run the wild rebel yesterday. And another thing, Nix is not a bad coach against the spread offense! Yes he has lost games against spread but he's won them as well. Remember last year holding the spread offensive attack of oklahoma state to only 7 points!!! The bottom line is its the coaches and players fault. The players didn't play hard, powe only had 2 tackles in the whole d*** game!
I disagree that we didn't blitz. One play in particular, Nix brought the house only to get burned for about 30 yds. I saw several blitzes that were just unproductive due to the half-a$$ed effort. Then again in several 3rd and long situations OM sat back in a deep zone with no blitz when they should have brought pressure. At one point I was wondering if Nix just wanted to see where he stood with the DBs.

Funny thing though, by the time the 4th and 15 rolled around with jsu on the 30 in double ot I was on my way to work and wasn't able to see it. I heard Dave Kellum on the radio say OM was in a prevent defense with only 3 down lineman. I nearly turned the radio off because I knew what was about to happen.
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