OL is our biggest issue

rickochet2 · Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:29 pm

I know that many feel that JS is our biggest problem this yr. I completely & totally disagree. Yes, he does have the deer in the headlights look but wouldn't anyone with the pressure he has seen. I have yet to see our OL pick up a stunt all yr. More times than not the DE's & LB's have gotten to the QB Pocket before JS.

You cannot make good decisions & throws w/ the opponent in your face.

Much of this problem though is due to poor coaching. It took until the VU game for our coaches to finally call a run play on a 3rd down & 5 or greater. All night vs SC the draw was open yet never called. If the D knows what you are doing it makes it easier to stop point blank.

Today JS looked awful in the 1st half but when he made a good throw his receivers let him down. 2 picks due to receivers not making catches. Bolden drops a ball that would have put us inside the 10 & dropping another critical pass on 3rd down with room open.

Everytime we have thrown a swing pass it has gone for solid yardage but our OL is so bad at this time that we have our RBs blocking instead of in the pattern.

I am disappointed with the way this season has gone & not b/c of the losses, but b/c of the poor performances. Not 1 game have we played a solid complete game. Mem was the closest & was put away in the 4th.

I haven't been posting much lately but wanted to put my .02 in.

BTW I wasn't happy with the hire of HDN but like my feelings of our Pres, he is our leader & will support him completely. & though it may sound like it I am not calling for a look at HDN.

THAT IS ALL.

Chucky_38 · Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:42 pm

I agree with everything you said. The OLine will get better as we go. The coaching will get better as it did last year. More wins will come. And although Nutt was not my first choice, he is light years beyond O and a step up from Cut.

rickochet2 · Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:44 pm

Chucky_38 wrote:I agree with everything you said. The OLine will get better as we go. The coaching will get better as it did last year. More wins will come. And although Nutt was not my first choice, he is light years beyond O and a step up from Cut.

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!

Heath · Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:24 pm

I agree. The O Line is atrocious. I am not a coach at all, but saw some bad mistakes on the line with picking up and blocking rushers. On more than one occasion, I saw Neely go out and attempt to block a LB that was not rushing, or rushing very slowly, while a safey or someone else ran right by him. It seems to me that all he would have to do is step in front of the rusher to give Snead more time to throw. I don't know if it is the players, or Markuson not preparing them for the other team's D.

jrebel87 · Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:59 am

You don't get it.....Yes the offensive line is horrible but that still doesn't take back the fact that even when there isn't pressure Jevan still hears footsteps and throws a horrible pass! Jevan is completely out of sync right now and its partially his fault. It was Jevan who missed those 5 yard throws into the flat last night. It was jevan who has thrown 7 interceptions in 2 games. It was jevan who refuses to read the defense like he did so well last year. All that is Sneads fault and if he doesn't at least do his part then we need to replace him. We rebel fans went through h*ll in the orgeron era when we didn't have a quarterback for 4 straight years and Snead has too much potential to take us back to those miserable days. Those days marked the worse span is olemiss football history and they happened way to close down the road for them to happen again this soon! We could go 15 years and that will still be too soon! We seriously must get a qb in there that will hit open receivers WHEN HE ISN'T BEING PRESSURED.

umaa18 · Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:10 am

Snead can’t hit the short passes; he is throwing into double coverage and sometimes in triple coverage. 8 interceptions in the last 2 ball games, he is our opponents 12 player. Snead should be pulled and replaced for the next game, or until he can play in the league once again. Snead would have never played at Florida, and after watching Texas last night, he would have never played at Texas. In the last 2 ball games 8 interceptions. That my friend is stupid!!!! Our defense did a wonderful job, that’s the only bright side to Ole Miss Football right now. Nutt needs to wake up, smell the coffee, and give Billy Joe Tapp or one of the other 2 quarterbacks all the work this week in practice, put Snead on the bench, until he can prove he can play. We still have a lot of football ahead, but unless some changes on offence are made, it’s going to be a long season, and we will be sitting home for the holidays.

1OLEMISSREBEL · Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:24 pm

Yesterday, as I watched the game and listened to the radio guys, many times their comment on imcompleted passes was this " Jevan had plenty of time in the pocket" so the OL was getting the job done at times.

1OLEMISSREBEL · Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:46 pm

this is Jevan's words about the ol:

“They did have a good pass-rush and I got a little pressure on me sometimes. I think my offensive line did alright. It wasn’t anything hat they did. There was several times when I should have made the throw and I just isn’t perform.”

MageeRebel425 · Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:31 pm

O line is a big problem but that doesnt take snead off the hook.. Just look at Mcelroy, he is a lot less experienced but looks very comfortable. Look at the game yesterday. Our o-line is so bad that snead was sacked a grand total of 0 times.. Mcelroy got sacked twice. Snead got hurried 5 times, Mcelroy got hurried 7 times... Mcelroy was playing on the road in the SEC and looked like a cool customer. Snead played at the house with thousands of people ready to explode.. Mcelroy was up to the task, Snead looked awful. Look how the game started.....
Defense opens the game with a 3 and out.
Marshay set us up with awesome starting field position on our first possession, the 48. Most people thought this would be a defensive battle going in.. So, I am thinking man this is good, we have field position early and our defense shut bama down the first series with ease. This is a good start. I wonder what was snead thinking. With field position on 3rd and 10 snead sees a safety blitz coming directly in front of him and sails a ball for a pick.. Its ok to throw it away sometimes. Heck its ok to take a sack in that situation. Punt it and pin them deep. Whatever you do, DONT THROW A PICK!!! It was like that all game. I wanted him to get benched at least 1 series to see if he could get his head straight.
Our play calling has been terrible all season and I think a lot of that has to do with the coaches trying to "protect" or "hide" snead.. Thats sad when he was being discussed as the first overall pick in the nfl draft. Our play calling was awful again yesterday.. I have noticed that everytime dex is the running back in the I we run off right guard.. If I have picked up on that, Nick saban might be sharp enough to pick up on that too. We are running the same crap over and over again. I know that we cant throw it deep because snead cant even hit 5 yard routes and is really struggling to throw the deep pass. I wonder if last year snead was a product of Mike Wallace because he demanded safety help. I could go on and on and on but I choose not to right now.

REBEL13 · Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:53 pm

I'm no O-line coach either, but I purposely watched Sowell, and of course he got beat. Then I watched Jerry, and he got beat. I agree this is the weakest link, but Snead had plenty of time to make an accurate throw to a RB in the flats. He just couldn't do it. Overthrow, underthrows, and a few what the hell's. Very frustrating to watch. Kinda glad I can't make it to the UAB game.

BTW I've got a couple tickets (sec B) to the UAB game. If you know anyone who might want em just message me. I was hoping for face ($40) but don't know what they're worth now. A guy, I work with, said he wanted em last week. I'll see, if he still does after this past weekend, and make a formal post on the store board Tuesday if they're still available.

done · Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:15 am

Most of the mistakes were on Snead. A QB has to have presence in the pocket...he walks right into sacks when if he just steps the other way he has time to throw. And even when he has time he overthrows or under throws even the simplest screen passes.The problem with this offense is the QB.

KingofDeQueen · Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:50 pm

you can't really dog your O-line play after getting beat by Bama. lots of factors at play in Saturday's game: facing the 3-4, several NFLers amongst them; Satan's scheming, etc.

snead looks freakin' shell shocked...i don't know if his confidence is shook, or if its his confidence in the playcalling. he's meant to be set free in a wide-open offense slingin it, not a hander-offer/3rd down prayer thrower. until he's back at full speed/confidence, OM's chances are slimming by the minute.

lewindha · Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:31 pm

KingofDeQueen wrote:you can't really dog your O-line play after getting beat by Bama. lots of factors at play in Saturday's game: facing the 3-4, several NFLers amongst them; Satan's scheming, etc.

snead looks freakin' shell shocked...i don't know if his confidence is shook, or if its his confidence in the playcalling. he's meant to be set free in a wide-open offense slingin it, not a hander-offer/3rd down prayer thrower. until he's back at full speed/confidence, OM's chances are slimming by the minute.

Well he's gonna have to be a hander-offer if he can't throw a d*** five yard rb swing pass. He's throwing it at their feet or over their head. And instead of hiding your hatred of Nutt by saying things like:

he's meant to be set free in a wide-open offense slingin it, not a hander-offer/3rd down prayer thrower.

Just go ahead and say it. Too many of your boys have been over here slinging mud at Nutt for us not to know what you're really saying. It's OK.

I like Nutt, but I'm not gonna say he's without fault in all of this. But right now, 90% of my blame goes to Snead for his YMCA style of passing(throw it out there and hope my guy catches it).

KingofDeQueen · Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:36 pm

lewindha wrote:
KingofDeQueen wrote:you can't really dog your O-line play after getting beat by Bama. lots of factors at play in Saturday's game: facing the 3-4, several NFLers amongst them; Satan's scheming, etc.

snead looks freakin' shell shocked...i don't know if his confidence is shook, or if its his confidence in the playcalling. he's meant to be set free in a wide-open offense slingin it, not a hander-offer/3rd down prayer thrower. until he's back at full speed/confidence, OM's chances are slimming by the minute.
Well he's gonna have to be a hander-offer if he can't throw a d*** five yard rb swing pass. He's throwing it at their feet or over their head. And instead of hiding your hatred of Nutt by saying things like:

he's meant to be set free in a wide-open offense slingin it, not a hander-offer/3rd down prayer thrower.
Just go ahead and say it. Too many of your boys have been over here slinging mud at Nutt for us not to know what you're really saying. It's OK.

I like Nutt, but I'm not gonna say he's without fault in all of this. But right now, 90% of my blame goes to Snead for his YMCA style of passing(throw it out there and hope my guy catches it).

my feelings about HDN have nothing to do w/ my opinion on Snead's demeanor...he doesn't look like the same guy from last year. period.

sorry about my bretheren from 'cross the river, as many of us seem to be going through the breakup worse than others.

lewindha · Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:51 pm

Well he does look like the same guy from last year's first 6 or 7 games.

I just don't get it. Go look on Youtube, there's a video of some ridiculous passes he threw against LSU.

He's got the talent, but we need it to show up on day 1 of the season rather than 8 games in.