Lack of pass rush last year.

[rebeldevotee]

So I have been listening to this new Rebel Sports Radio. Most of the guys who cover Ole Miss have said that the lack of pass rush was because the previous coaching staff told the DL not to rush the QB just hold your blocks so that the LB can make tackles. I mean look I know that the deal with defensive tackles are if you cant get a push to hold the block but you are supposed to at least TRY and get a push. To tell that to ends too I am sorry if that is true just means any one of us could have coached this team better last year.

[JustBlues]

So I have been listening to this new Rebel Sports Radio. Most of the guys who cover Ole Miss have said that the lack of pass rush was because the previous coaching staff told the DL not to rush the QB just hold your blocks so that the LB can make tackles. I mean look I know that the deal with defensive tackles are if you cant get a push to hold the block but you are supposed to at least TRY and get a push. To tell that to ends too I am sorry if that is true just means any one of us could have coached this team better last year.

that could be, but I for one would find it hard to believe. Nix's reputation is to be aggressive and it would surprise me if he didn't want his down men going balls to the walls as much as possible. I think that there were three primary reasons for problems with pass rush: 1) Number forty was still recovering from the ACL tear and surgery, 2) Dorsey had a season ending injury (before his injury he was putting some pressure on the other team) and 3) the rest of our down men were young, inexperienced and undersized. There are definitely some coaching decisions that compounded the situation, but I don't believe that telling the down men not to rush was one of the coaching errors, especially considering the changes we made along the line as the season progressed. I believe that we have the players to improve greatly in this area if the coaching is there. If Kiffin is anything like his dad, I expect this problem to be corrected this year. I'm much more concerned with our ability to defend against the run this coming year. We had a huge problem with that and there isn't an easy solution for the year to come. I do think that Isaac Gross is going to be a beast in the middle in a few years. I think that Kel Thurman will end up being a run stopping speacialist for us so I believe that in a couple of years we'll have this problem fixed, but for 2012 I'm worried. We'll hope that Jackson can beef up Martin and Bennet and the rest of the group so that they can tie up blockers better and get off those blocks in run situations.

[rebeldevotee]

So I have been listening to this new Rebel Sports Radio. Most of the guys who cover Ole Miss have said that the lack of pass rush was because the previous coaching staff told the DL not to rush the QB just hold your blocks so that the LB can make tackles. I mean look I know that the deal with defensive tackles are if you cant get a push to hold the block but you are supposed to at least TRY and get a push. To tell that to ends too I am sorry if that is true just means any one of us could have coached this team better last year.

that could be, but I for one would find it hard to believe. Nix's reputation is to be aggressive and it would surprise me if he didn't want his down men going balls to the walls as much as possible. I think that there were three primary reasons for problems with pass rush: 1) Number forty was still recovering from the ACL tear and surgery, 2) Dorsey had a season ending injury (before his injury he was putting some pressure on the other team) and 3) the rest of our down men were young, inexperienced and undersized. There are definitely some coaching decisions that compounded the situation, but I don't believe that telling the down men not to rush was one of the coaching errors, especially considering the changes we made along the line as the season progressed. I believe that we have the players to improve greatly in this area if the coaching is there. If Kiffin is anything like his dad, I expect this problem to be corrected this year. I'm much more concerned with our ability to defend against the run this coming year. We had a huge problem with that and there isn't an easy solution for the year to come. I do think that Isaac Gross is going to be a beast in the middle in a few years. I think that Kel Thurman will end up being a run stopping speacialist for us so I believe that in a couple of years we'll have this problem fixed, but for 2012 I'm worried. We'll hope that Jackson can beef up Martin and Bennet and the rest of the group so that they can tie up blockers better and get off those blocks in run situations.

Did not make sense to me either but for so many people who actually covered the team on a daily basis to say it makes me wonder why they would make it up.

[StrongRebel]

So I have been listening to this new Rebel Sports Radio. Most of the guys who cover Ole Miss have said that the lack of pass rush was because the previous coaching staff told the DL not to rush the QB just hold your blocks so that the LB can make tackles. I mean look I know that the deal with defensive tackles are if you cant get a push to hold the block but you are supposed to at least TRY and get a push. To tell that to ends too I am sorry if that is true just means any one of us could have coached this team better last year.

Remember most of those guys that are talking on that radio never played football or sports in general. I find that the guys who talked the most about sports really weren't good enough to play them. They may be talking about DT holding a guard on a blitz or something but not on every rushing down. The fact that we sucked at pass rush was two fold a) Terry Price is not a good DL coach in teaching technique or recruiting when he was here with T. Tuberville it was Don Dunn who was the teaching DL coach with Terry teaching the DE but he was not the one who got the most out of the unit it D. Dunn b) our scheme did not hide blitzes Nix's philosophy is to show his hand thinking he had talent throughout the whole defense, and it will intimidate the opposing offense's QB that we are coming after you and hit you but the problem is it is easy to teach a QB to read a Nix defense and to check off to the receiver that the safety is suppose to rollover on.
We just didn't have the talent on the front 7 that we needed to run a Nix defense, and when you don't have it Nix has zero ability to adjust. It doesn't mean his defense can't be good it just means he doesn't have the ability to adjust his defenses to a less talented group i.e. means he is a very subpar DC.

[JustBlues]

So I have been listening to this new Rebel Sports Radio. Most of the guys who cover Ole Miss have said that the lack of pass rush was because the previous coaching staff told the DL not to rush the QB just hold your blocks so that the LB can make tackles. I mean look I know that the deal with defensive tackles are if you cant get a push to hold the block but you are supposed to at least TRY and get a push. To tell that to ends too I am sorry if that is true just means any one of us could have coached this team better last year.

Remember most of those guys that are talking on that radio never played football or sports in general. I find that the guys who talked the most about sports really weren't good enough to play them. They may be talking about DT holding a guard on a blitz or something but not on every rushing down. The fact that we sucked at pass rush was two fold a) Terry Price is not a good DL coach in teaching technique or recruiting when he was here with T. Tuberville it was Don Dunn who was the teaching DL coach with Terry teaching the DE but he was not the one who got the most out of the unit it D. Dunn b) our scheme did not hide blitzes Nix's philosophy is to show his hand thinking he had talent throughout the whole defense, and it will intimidate the opposing offense's QB that we are coming after you and hit you but the problem is it is easy to teach a QB to read a Nix defense and to check off to the receiver that the safety is suppose to rollover on.
We just didn't have the talent on the front 7 that we needed to run a Nix defense, and when you don't have it Nix has zero ability to adjust. It doesn't mean his defense can't be good it just means he doesn't have the ability to adjust his defenses to a less talented group i.e. means he is a very subpar DC.

failure to disguise what we were going to do was the biggest of the coaching mistakes I referred to. That was the number one problem with our defense.

[StrongRebel]

So I have been listening to this new Rebel Sports Radio. Most of the guys who cover Ole Miss have said that the lack of pass rush was because the previous coaching staff told the DL not to rush the QB just hold your blocks so that the LB can make tackles. I mean look I know that the deal with defensive tackles are if you cant get a push to hold the block but you are supposed to at least TRY and get a push. To tell that to ends too I am sorry if that is true just means any one of us could have coached this team better last year.

Remember most of those guys that are talking on that radio never played football or sports in general. I find that the guys who talked the most about sports really weren't good enough to play them. They may be talking about DT holding a guard on a blitz or something but not on every rushing down. The fact that we sucked at pass rush was two fold a) Terry Price is not a good DL coach in teaching technique or recruiting when he was here with T. Tuberville it was Don Dunn who was the teaching DL coach with Terry teaching the DE but he was not the one who got the most out of the unit it D. Dunn b) our scheme did not hide blitzes Nix's philosophy is to show his hand thinking he had talent throughout the whole defense, and it will intimidate the opposing offense's QB that we are coming after you and hit you but the problem is it is easy to teach a QB to read a Nix defense and to check off to the receiver that the safety is suppose to rollover on.
We just didn't have the talent on the front 7 that we needed to run a Nix defense, and when you don't have it Nix has zero ability to adjust. It doesn't mean his defense can't be good it just means he doesn't have the ability to adjust his defenses to a less talented group i.e. means he is a very subpar DC.

failure to disguise what we were going to do was the biggest of the coaching mistakes I referred to. That was the number one problem with our defense.

Agree but that is Nix's defensive philosophy. He feels you shouldn't have to hide scheme and the psychology of fear will eventually rattle the QB enough to disrupt the offense by the second half. The problem was he did not adjust his defense in the second half at all and kept doing the same thing the whole game. So if you can't hit the QB organically and through blitzing his defense will get hammered.

Also the linebacker play was not very good. So hopefully Womack and Allen can change that. I watched Allen interviewed and seems like a very intense coach that is going to whip those linebackers into line.

[JustBlues]

Remember most of those guys that are talking on that radio never played football or sports in general. I find that the guys who talked the most about sports really weren't good enough to play them. They may be talking about DT holding a guard on a blitz or something but not on every rushing down. The fact that we sucked at pass rush was two fold a) Terry Price is not a good DL coach in teaching technique or recruiting when he was here with T. Tuberville it was Don Dunn who was the teaching DL coach with Terry teaching the DE but he was not the one who got the most out of the unit it D. Dunn b) our scheme did not hide blitzes Nix's philosophy is to show his hand thinking he had talent throughout the whole defense, and it will intimidate the opposing offense's QB that we are coming after you and hit you but the problem is it is easy to teach a QB to read a Nix defense and to check off to the receiver that the safety is suppose to rollover on.
We just didn't have the talent on the front 7 that we needed to run a Nix defense, and when you don't have it Nix has zero ability to adjust. It doesn't mean his defense can't be good it just means he doesn't have the ability to adjust his defenses to a less talented group i.e. means he is a very subpar DC.

failure to disguise what we were going to do was the biggest of the coaching mistakes I referred to. That was the number one problem with our defense.

Agree but that is Nix's defensive philosophy. He feels you shouldn't have to hide scheme and the psychology of fear will eventually rattle the QB enough to disrupt the offense by the second half. The problem was he did not adjust his defense in the second half at all and kept doing the same thing the whole game. So if you can't hit the QB organically and through blitzing his defense will get hammered.

Also the linebacker play was not very good. So hopefully Womack and Allen can change that. I watched Allen interviewed and seems like a very intense coach that is going to whip those linebackers into line.

from what I've been able to find, Wommacks past forays into the SEC yielded defenses that were very much like Nix's. However, often times the position coaches can have as much (or even more) impact on how a defense looks as the coordinator and I am relatively pleased with our defensive position coaches so that gives me hope.

[Rebchuck18]

Agree but that is Nix's defensive philosophy. He feels you shouldn't have to hide scheme and the psychology of fear will eventually rattle the QB enough to disrupt the offense by the second half. The problem was he did not adjust his defense in the second half at all and kept doing the same thing the whole game. So if you can't hit the QB organically and through blitzing his defense will get hammered.

Also the linebacker play was not very good. So hopefully Womack and Allen can change that. I watched Allen interviewed and seems like a very intense coach that is going to whip those linebackers into line.

Which he learned from his mentor.....now who was that? Oh yea...Dave Wommack...where's that guy now? 8)

[bleuwolfe]

little kid with his pea shooter when teacher turns her back
smh

[StrongRebel]

Agree but that is Nix's defensive philosophy. He feels you shouldn't have to hide scheme and the psychology of fear will eventually rattle the QB enough to disrupt the offense by the second half. The problem was he did not adjust his defense in the second half at all and kept doing the same thing the whole game. So if you can't hit the QB organically and through blitzing his defense will get hammered.

Also the linebacker play was not very good. So hopefully Womack and Allen can change that. I watched Allen interviewed and seems like a very intense coach that is going to whip those linebackers into line.

Which he learned from his mentor.....now who was that? Oh yea...Dave Wommack...where's that guy now? 8)

Actually I thought his mentor was John Thompson. But I could see how you would try to relate it.

[StrongRebel]

How many successful coaches has Saban mentored??? I mean if his pupils suck then that must mean he sucks at it?

I was speaking to Nix ability to adjust his defense. Which speaks more of "his" coaching not his "mentors"

[JustBlues]

How many successful coaches has Saban mentored??? I mean if his pupils suck then that must mean he sucks at it?

Well, I think that for the most part that will be decided in the future. It is hardly fair to measure success in the first few years of their tenure as head coaches. However, one who I would classify as successful as a head coach already is Mark Dantonio.